New Era for Mithril ?

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  • #34505
    Thingol
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      Gildor Inglorion wrote:
      well they said in the newsletter that the price would be the same…

      Unfortunately……

      #34506
      hsf62
      Participant

        Well, be happy it isn’t more to pay of the printer….:lol::lol::lol:

        #34534
        Gildor
        MMP Elder

          well, after 12 months of silence (yes, twelve months), I finally reached out and got an email from Chris Tubb… at last but not least, he provided me with some good news mostly regarding those new technologies and line of work

          As he allowed me to partake with the info here are some insights:
          “So much digitally produced stuff looks generic and โ€œsoul-lessโ€ and I was very anxious to avoid this. I think a lot of designers use the pre-made figures, hands, accessories that come with the program, but I avoided this and made everything myself. I sculpted a lot of heads and hands etc in clay at slightly larger size and scanned them into the program , so as to keep the right look. I also scanned in existing Mithril figures and had them sitting next to my new sculpts on the screen to get the sizes and proportions right. There is also a tendency among 3D designers to over-detail everything, as detail is so easy to replicate and I think this also needs to be avoided. […] The good news is that the workflow is a LOT faster now and many projects that were unfeasible with traditional modelling have now become more realistic.As well as being up to date with the Fellowship releases I am already working on a new set of regular Mithril releases. […] I have used several printers in the last months but the best so far, on which the Mithril figures are printed is a Projet 3000. I have some figures on the table in front of me as I write and I am very pleased with them”

          well these are some good news I think… I was curious and looked for some exampled of 3d prints with Projet HD 3000, take a look here :
          http://www.pdmodels.co.uk/en/articles/portfolio/3d_printed_miniatures

          #34535
          Theobald
          Participant

            So even more good news there are. – – – Well, then we just have to wait to hold the first “new” figures in our hands. I’m really looking forward to it and wonder if the metal-casted figures and the grey primer will match with the “old” figures.

            #34536
            Barliman
            Participant

              Needless to say, I’m very much looking forward to seeing what this “new set of regular Mithril releases” will turn out to be. Mastering this new technique certainly seems to have enthused The Man. Excellent news.

              #34784
              Maxtarna
              Participant

                Hi!
                Thanks for sharing the pics… Good news! But I’m still a bit disappointed about the prices, according to what they said.

                #38508
                Sam Wise
                Participant

                  Hi !
                  I “up” this thread because I was wondering about the new Mithril Range..
                  I’ve had some explanations with all your comments, dear gentlemen of all races, so many thanks !
                  But … maybe I’ve missed something :/, how they are casted ?
                  They print only the master and then used this one to do the mould and cast the figures in metal like in the old time ?
                  Or another way ?

                  [… my comeback in the MMP gives me a regain of interest for Mithril figs …and it’s not the lonely question I have… I will check other pages first ]

                  #38509
                  Milo
                  Participant
                    Sam Wise wrote:

                    They print only the master and then used this one to do the mould and cast the figures in metal like in the old time ?

                    That’s also my understanding. And Chris Tubb does not sculpt anymore but uses digital design Software tool.

                    #38511
                    Sam Wise
                    Participant
                      Milo wrote:
                      That’s also my understanding. And Chris Tubb does not sculpt anymore but uses digital design Software tool.

                      well .. that’s “on the air” now …for the better and the worse !

                      Maybe, in the future we (well … not necessarily me ! :P) could buy only the 3D file and print the figures at home !
                      And then it could be possible to modify the file for doing conversions ! ๐Ÿ˜Ž
                      Far easier maybe ?

                      #38513
                      Maxtarna
                      Participant

                        I hope they’ll go on casting in metal: i’m not fond of resin, except for scenery.

                        #38514
                        Theobald
                        Participant

                          By now I gave up hoping that the new way of producing the figures (Z-brush) could one day cope again with the “old way” of production. I think, unfortunately too many things have been massively changed to the worse. My major disappointment is based on a poor quality of so many “MZ-figures”, sometimes a lack in craftsmanship in casting and last but not least on the way the company gave up one of its very significant characteristics (the grey primer!). The publication (pictures) of the figures are simply based on computer-renderings which sometimes have (in detail) nothing to do with what you get once you bought them. To me that comes a bit too close to cheating in some cases. Finally that good-old fine quality of an easy assembling of several parts of some of the figures I also do miss very much.

                          Yes, you get it right. I am very sad about this development and not only “slightly” disappointed.

                          #38515
                          Sam Wise
                          Participant
                            Theobald wrote:
                            By now I gave up hoping that the new way of producing the figures (Z-brush) could one day cope again with the “old way” of production. I think, unfortunately too many things have been massively changed to the worse. My major disappointment is based on a poor quality of so many “MZ-figures”, sometimes a lack in craftsmanship in casting and last but not least on the way the company gave up one of its very significant characteristics (the grey primer!). The publication (pictures) of the figures are simply based on computer-renderings which sometimes have (in detail) nothing to do with what you get once you bought them. To me that comes a bit too close to cheating in some cases. Finally that good-old fine quality of an easy assembling of several parts of some of the figures I also do miss very much.

                            Yes, you get it right. I am very sad about this development and not only “slightly” disappointed.

                            Thanks Master Theobald for your comment … and of course I understand your (big!) disappointment !
                            That’s something I’ve suspected after reading this thread … the “New Era” seems to be a “bad era” for the “old” collectors who have done all the promotional work for the company.
                            I like too the “old grey primer” finishing even if I’ve always done a new prime colour before painting, but it gives to the figures something “special” that the others don’t have.
                            Nevertheless, in my usual scale (1/72), I’ve plastic, metal and resin figures, and my preferred ones are the resin for the quality of the casting.
                            But they are too much breakable … :/

                            I will taste the new look with the Old Tobold I’ve bought on the empty-shop :cool:…. ( not sure that’s a 3D “sculpt” … )

                            #38516
                            Fabrice JACOB
                            Participant

                              Hi everybody,
                              I want to buy the reference MS 494, “Haradrian chieftain”, but after what I have just read, I can ask the following questions: Did you have this model in your hands ? and since it seems to be an old reference, does it have the same qualities ?
                              Thank you for your answers.
                              PS : In case of a positive opinion, if you have an extra MS 494, I am interested, I find it splendid !

                              #38517
                              Sam Wise
                              Participant
                                Fabrice JACOB wrote:
                                Hi everybody,
                                I want to buy the reference MS 494, “Haradrian chieftain”, but after what I have just read, I can ask the following questions: Did you have this model in your hands ? and since it seems to be an old reference, does it have the same qualities ?
                                Thank you for your answers.
                                PS : In case of a positive opinion, if you have an extra MS 494, I am interested, I find it splendid !

                                Hi Fabrice ! it seems that is in the “old quality ” if I refer to the database ( [mith]MS494[/mith] )
                                and it’s still available in the webshop : here
                                And I agree with you : it’s a splendid figure !

                                #38519
                                Thingol
                                Participant

                                  New figures are much more better than the first one in MZ series…that’s my comment… Improvement is more than visible.

                                  #38532
                                  hsf62
                                  Participant

                                    Maybe more detailed, but it seems they are shrinking…..:rolleyes:

                                    #38543
                                    Thingol
                                    Participant

                                      After this coronavirus pandemic, new recesion will make them much more shrinked than are the present miniatures…. ๐Ÿ˜†

                                      #38550
                                      Fabrice JACOB
                                      Participant

                                        And increase their cost ๐Ÿ˜†

                                        #38567
                                        Maenas
                                        Participant
                                          Thingol wrote:
                                          New figures are much more better than the first one in MZ series…that’s my comment… Improvement is more than visible.

                                          That’s what I was expecting before buying any MZ reference.
                                          I only bought the first one, and got VERY disappointed with it’s quality. (the quality I would expect from a metal miniature that costs 15-25โ‚ฌ)
                                          I might try to get a couple of them then, to check it for myself.

                                          Which reference would you say that marks that change, dear Master Thingol? (even if it’s approximate)

                                          #38570
                                          Thingol
                                          Participant

                                            MZ 663, 671, 670, 666, no doubt…. but newest miniatures I did not received yet..

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