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September 18, 2013 at 9:43 am #28658
I use the Mithril grey spray primer (in spray cans). I am very much satisfied with it. Unfortunately the company announced some time ago that they cannot ship that primer via airmail any more (new laws, or something like that). That would be a great loss, I think.
Michael also mentioned that Mithril was about testing a new primer for painting. So far I have not heard of that any more.September 18, 2013 at 10:14 am #28659yeah a pity we can’t get this gray primer
was trying to get some too but too late due to laws…September 18, 2013 at 12:46 pm #28660Maybe this reference is available outside the company. For instance, these is a Prince August shop in Toulouse. I will send them a mail.
September 18, 2013 at 1:51 pm #28661Theobald wrote:I use the Mithril grey spray primer (in spray cans). I am very much satisfied with it. Unfortunately the company announced some time ago that they cannot ship that primer via airmail any more (new laws, or something like that). That would be a great loss, I think.
Michael also mentioned that Mithril was about testing a new primer for painting. So far I have not heard of that any more.Maybe they could send it with bus, boat or bike…. 😆
September 18, 2013 at 1:54 pm #28662You can use it Humbrol enamel http://www.humbrol.com/shop/paints/enamel-paints/aa0014-1-grey-primer-matt-14ml-enamel-paint/ and use it with airbrush….
September 18, 2013 at 2:24 pm #28663Well, seriously, I don’t want to miss that spray primer in the future and will try to find ways to get it again. Indeed it is not a primer produced by Mithril, the company producing it is from Britain. So, I’ll see (at the moment I still keep enough of that to prime many more Mithril or Phaeton figures).
Yes, Master Thingol, before Mithril started to use it’s current primer I also used Humbrol (Grey n° 1) which comes very close. But as I do not have an airbrush I had to be very careful in those days in adding more “liquid” to make it work to be used as a primer provided with a brush. If you are not that careful you smear the figures over so that all the tiny details are levelled and are extinguished. And … the surface could turn to become too shiny.September 18, 2013 at 2:27 pm #28664I just had a look on mithril web site, it is diffcult to identify the product with provided picture.
Master Ent, could have a look and tell me the exact reference for Mithril grey spray primer (in spray cans) please ?September 18, 2013 at 4:07 pm #28665Dear Master Milo, since yesterday until the moment I am very much busy with two challenges that have to do with that “Thor-Vignette”. That has to do with assembling and priming. -I will explain that later.
Master Milo, if I got you right you took the decision (at least) to present your very fine Mithril collection in a good way. That’s good, I think, I took that decision some years ago. – So, all those unprimed parts of figures and especially the vignettes have to be primed in the best way to match them with the already grey-primed figures. I go along with that, as I took that same choice many years ago. The idea beyond is, if I get you right, to have a collection that is visible in glass cabinets giving the impression, that all this belongs together, did I get you right?
Well, yes, so we should start right here and not haste.
Indeed I would like to give some help here about primers and priming and things that have to do with it.
I’ll get back a bit later, as I want to find out how that primer does on the resin parts of Thor.
Gruuuoooômmm as for anyone else around here … this is in public and I’m not only talking to Master Milo … huom
I’ll get back later, be sure …September 18, 2013 at 4:17 pm #28666Well, yes, I think you need to have a figure in your hands and then prime it. Not until then you can tell about the quality and existance of the details. I do hate those thumbnail-sized pics from Mithril and especially Phaeton-Design. That’s why I never comment on any pic of a figure about being released, if you remember that. Alas, this had to be said again.
I’ll get back soon … have to control, how the primer reacts to metal and resin (Thor again).
September 18, 2013 at 4:45 pm #28667To get back to your query, Master Milo. – Sorry, I cannot haste each and everything, as you know.
Er, fact is that Mithril has to agree to Irish laws about “Aviation Security Declaration” concerning shipping goods per airmail. That means that Master Lars Edman has to declare and certify that packages sent do not contain “any dangereous or prohibited goods”. – So, sending spray cans via airmail are not prohibited, but they could be dangerous. – That’s just laws, as far as I know and I’m sure about. – grrruooohmmm … I will not comment on this here …. just believe me this is , what is fact, as far as I know.
lyes, indeed, it does annoy me too … give me some time to go on, please …September 18, 2013 at 4:47 pm #28668Well Milo you have to consider it is a PRINCE AUGUST product, not a mithril one
here is the link of the primer : http://shop.princeaugust.ie/paints-and-brushes/paint-primers/aerosol-primer-grey/
September 18, 2013 at 5:04 pm #28669Ok … Mithril offered the Primer as :
1K Grey Etch Primer (400ml)
it is from
HMG PAINTS Ltd. (Manchester)
I have address, details and telephone number, but it’s not a place here for promoting anything. It’s just an answer to Master Milo’s question.
I hope I could give some help again. _ Of course I’m writing this way (in several entries) to speed up my to 4444. – I hope you don’t mind this jest. Just want to help, where I can do.
By the way … in the meantime everything went excellently with Thor (assemblind, fixing and priming). – I will get back to that tomorrow, Master Milo, if you don’t mind.September 18, 2013 at 6:07 pm #28670Regarding primers for figures I use a brand of motor vehicle acrylic primers, mainly white or grey depending on what I am going to paint.
While I cannot comment on what brands are available in your own countries, the brand I use is by a large vehicle accessory/bicycle store called Halfords.
This stuff has never let me down and many UK modellers use it as it does work out cheaper and the cans are larger
I don’t particularly like Humbrol spray cans.
So bottom line is – try auto primers
September 18, 2013 at 6:15 pm #28671sevlag wrote:Gentlemen, I need your help again :
For a diorama I’m working on, I need a chandelier and mural lights, like these :
For the wall (with one or too lights) :
[imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/678_applique-murale-baroque.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/678_applique-murale-baroque.jpg[/imgz]
On the ceiling:
[imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/678_lustre.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/678_lustre.jpg[/imgz]
I don’t find this type of lighting on French websites. Have you in your country some dealers of these accessories (with or without electricity), at the scale of our Mitrhil, where I can order them?
Thank you in advance for your helpNot sure if there will be any useful items on these sites, sorry I haven’t the time to look myself
September 18, 2013 at 6:40 pm #28672Thank you very much Master Ddaines.
I’ll look at these websites when I’ve 5 minutes.September 18, 2013 at 6:42 pm #28673Yes, here you are absolutely right about this link to the product sold by PA/Mithril, Master Gildor. – Though, that one is neither a Mithril nor PA product, as it it is just provided by PA. Some of us might remember well those times and discussions about a company finding a better, or new, primer, when then the ‘old one’ went out. That indeed was when the “new primer” was reveiling difficulties. It exctlay went along with the first realease of the “Swan-Knights” – series.
The Man then was very much annoyed about that. But, I cannot give away any details. Anyway, since then the problem of priming metal-parts of figures accordingly has always been a serious matter to me.
To me it is just a simple fact, that well-primed figures reveil much more detail than just having a look at the pure shiny metal.
That to me is a perfect way to enjoy all (all … sic) figures being available to have a look at [Not being buried in blisters or even some hidden drawers].
No harm intended, Master Gildor, not at all … though I’ll Keep on with my experience about assembling the Thor-Vignette concerning assembling and glueing and priming.September 18, 2013 at 6:52 pm #28674I just give up … sorry.
September 18, 2013 at 8:32 pm #28675….. I have no problem with that primer, I just simply paint all figures…
September 18, 2013 at 8:34 pm #28676Theobald wrote:I just give up … sorry.brave retreat is the best retreat
September 18, 2013 at 10:27 pm #28677indeed master theobald I know it is not PA as it is stated on the primer sticker itself, it’s like the paints, they are “vallejo” paints, not PA either though repackaged and resticked .
but the “link” to the item being sold was on the PA site that’s what I meant
I hope you’ll have succes with your gluing priming, I myself received those figurines today and I must admit this resin is of Excellent quality! I will actually conduct a new “debate/poll/feedback” about that, on the appropriate forum
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