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February 5, 2011 at 6:27 am #15054
Gildor
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indeed twrich… I just, let’s say, summarized the event still the promontory can be used for this.
before Gollum bit his finger, Frodo had finally decided to keep the ring for himself, on this promontory…
February 5, 2011 at 8:29 am #15056
Milo
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I am still waiting to be allowed to propose again “Gollum biting Frodo’s Finger” in the fellowship.
Indeed, a nice base shall be usefull for the future.
February 5, 2011 at 9:10 am #15058
Theobald
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Seems that your ideas are more or less based on the idea of a small vignette, Master Gildor.
… Nevertheless restrictions by Mithril about a “single figure-suggestion” does not say anything about the base of a figure, it just says that no furniture or horse, etc. is not allowed to be suggested.
So, I think, this figure should obviously be something special as it reveils ‘The Lord of the Rings’.
In case you could convince The Man to spend as much time on thoughts about the base as on his idea about the figure itself I think this might become a masterpiece. – Though it might turn out to be a bit more expensive in the end. But we should keep in mind that some of the first MS-releases (e.g. MS434 or MS435) also were massive ‘pieces’.
The challenge is about to sculpt the title of a well-known fantasy-novel, so that this piece must be an outstanding work of excellence and importance, also in size and quality. That’s what I think of it and it means to go to the limits of sculpting. – Alas, if I were The Man, I would never ever have accepted such a challenge. But fortunately he’s better than me.
February 5, 2011 at 9:41 am #15060
Gildor
MMP Elder
well I compensate the absence of an anvil by the fact of having a promontory, there is after all no furniture and nobody except Sauron on this figurine. Considering the fact that Chris is enthusiast about the idea I think this won’t be a big problem

It will never reach the width of MS435, the base should remain small, but promontory like… and besides I don’t think THIS Sauron will be as tall as the MS435 one… he is supposed to be more akin to Annatar than on the Gorgoroth battlegrounds.

as for some aspects of it, I also used the “design” of Doctor Doom Marvel character that could give some ideas on the dark side of it… about the cloaking thing while keeping “some armor” parts but not too many…

Besides, these are only suggestions, this is not a MX this is a MS, I just help to bring ideas to the Man… he decides, in the end.

indeed this wil be a premiere in tolkien figurines world as I don’t think GW did release a Sauron crafting his ring… well New Line did… but that was awkward…. all along, for New Line (and GW) Sauron keeps his full spiky plate armor …. that’s ridiculous not to mention that doning a full battle harness all the time is usually for war deities…. Sauron, though appearing on battlefields…. is even less a warrior than Melkor was… smith/necromancer he is…
February 5, 2011 at 10:16 am #15064
Theobald
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Once The Man feels enthusiastic, as you put it Gildor, he is able to reveil marvels. Just have a look at the two latest vignettes he sculpted.
February 5, 2011 at 9:12 pm #15086
Thingol
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…. all those descriptions mixed in one figure…. Chris would have a big problem to satisfied all your wishes with this potential , unique and I hope magnificent masterpiece….. The Lord of the ring in material, tangible and almost human form….
February 6, 2011 at 9:53 pm #15131
ddaines
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Gildor, although I had two horses riding in he final race I am glad that Sauron joined the Horn of Helm first equal past the post (I look forward to his interpretations) – as you mentioned earlier, Chris was very hopeful that the HoH might win as well, so he should be a very happy ‘bunny’.

I think Master Theobald has hit the nail on the head as well – when the Man ‘gets the bit between the teeth’ for a subject he likes there is no stopping him.
February 9, 2011 at 1:15 pm #15215
Arthadan
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Please Master Elf, I beg you. Ask the Man to not use strange looking upward hair on Sauron this time.

Also, the ‘Elvish’ leather outfit looks more fitting than a full armour, if he has just forged the One.
February 9, 2011 at 1:21 pm #15216
Turambar
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I think I agree to you, Master Arthadan. In both points. An additional cloak should be welcome.
February 9, 2011 at 2:56 pm #15218
Gildor
MMP Elder
the problem with leather is the lack of “blackness” and “evilness” and though plate is indeed not very used, I remember quite a lot of illustrations of Melkor by Nasmith, Lee or Howe who represents Melkor precisely as a black knight in plate…

indeed Sauron is a maia, not a vala… but the fact mortals may not use plate in tolkien world does not mean that Ainur do not…. I must admit that full plate is not at all fitting, that’s why I suggested a cross over between [mith]MS435[/mith] and [mith]LO29[/mith] with sleeves and hood over the head

I wrote two pages of description, now I received a reply from Chris only stating that he won’t put a hammer at all, that would not be fitting and we both agree… as for the mask he will keep using a mask, but he wants to uses some kind of “evil-looking” venitian masks like the one he used for Annatar… Apparently he thinks that these masks are quite fitting for Sauron and that would keep a continuity with Annatar…

Now he did not mention a hood or helm (while I proposed one or the other) so I don’t know what he’ll decide… He only told me that about “blowing clothes” he likes that, but he usually makes them blow backward (from back to front) as it seems that the character is thus fighting or confronting the elements rather than in the other way around…

I don’t think I’ll hear more of this Sauron design until he begins crafting it but I think he has other figurines to finish first.
February 9, 2011 at 3:26 pm #15220
Wendy
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Black leather isn’t at all unusual…it could be left up to the painter. I know I wouldn’t want to work with hot metal wearing armor, but I’ve lost track of what the actual pose will be.
February 9, 2011 at 4:08 pm #15224
Gildor
MMP Elder
fact is… the forging of the one ring may have used more than simple smith skills that’s one of the reasons the hammer won’t be present…
February 9, 2011 at 4:13 pm #15227
Turambar
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You can´t put dark and evil energy into the ring by using a hammer.
Let´s have a painting tutorial “how to paint black leather”. There are a lot of female miniatures around
February 9, 2011 at 4:21 pm #15232
hsf62
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Black leather it is! 😆
February 9, 2011 at 4:57 pm #15236
Gildor
MMP Elder
honestly…. knowing Chris… I don’t want to spoil any of you but I really think that Sauron will have at least some metal parts…
February 9, 2011 at 10:09 pm #15247
Turambar
Participant
Really?! Oh . . .
December 19, 2011 at 11:17 am #22202
Milo
Participant
Orcs are back again ! :mad::mad:
December 19, 2011 at 2:16 pm #22203
hsf62
Participant
it seems the man in the dark is not doin his job…. 😆
maybe we should train some wargs to feast on the orcs…:cool:
December 19, 2011 at 2:27 pm #22204
Thingol
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….this guy is Head of operations for plumbing in Mordor… So look for some skilled and cheap labor. It is known that orcs are not masters of any craft…. :rolleyes::lol:
December 19, 2011 at 3:45 pm #22209
hsf62
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thanks for the drink Master Thingol!
Oh yes the orcs are masters in the art of destruction!
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