Tarannon’s horse

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June 20, 2014 at 10:20 pm #30692
Turambar
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I can assure you, Master Gildor, that Master Theobald is absolutely right! 😎
June 21, 2014 at 9:50 am #30693
hsf62
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:lol::lol::lol:
no it wouldn’t break and it wouldn’t bend either!
June 24, 2014 at 1:33 pm #30701
Gerold
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Several of the old Mithril horses bend aside in my collection, when I put a rider on it : M3 Witch-King, M28 and M29 (Rohan riders), also M260 (Theoden on horse rearing up : the horse bends over) and M345 Smaug flying (well, resting on its tail, which keeps bending over in all directions, and when I support it at the wings, the wings start to bend !)
June 24, 2014 at 2:06 pm #30702
Theobald
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Gerold, unfortunately you’re not the only one having to face the problems you described. I got used to re-stabilize those old Rohirrim riders from time to time. I guess you cut away the sprews between the horses’ legs and the base, as I once did.
As for that Smaug-Version, Mithril admitted some years ago, that the old castings of that figure tend to bend.
June 25, 2014 at 2:56 pm #30730
Gerold
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I cut the sprews indeed, now I know better
About M3 Witch-King : I recently found a second M3 figure and realised that however it was exactly the same figure, the same pose, the same details, but the horse was thicker, the legs of the horse looked stronger, and the rider fits the horse much better (I had to glue my first W-K on the horse because he kept tumbling down). Is it possible that this other M3 figure is a new cast (that won’t bend over) ?
June 25, 2014 at 11:48 pm #30735
Turambar
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AH HA !!!! This is quiet interesting, isn´t it?!
If Master Gerold had observated it the right way, and obviously he did, than that means, that “they” (in this case: whover in Ireland) had modified the original figure . . .
Very interesting indeed.
June 26, 2014 at 1:06 pm #30738
Gerold
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Oh ? I was expecting an answer like ‘Right, we already knew this for a looong time’, but apparently I found something new…
I’ll try to take some clear pictures and post them here, so you all can see and judge if I have observed it the right way indeed…
June 26, 2014 at 3:42 pm #30740
Milo
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I have all original old riders [mith]M3[/mith], [mith]M4[/mith], [mith]M26[/mith], [mith]M28[/mith], [mith]M29[/mith], [mith]M30[/mith], [mith]M31[/mith], [mith]M42[/mith]. All were taken out from original blister by me.
I never had any sort of bending issue on these miniatures horses. But it’s true also I handle these very carefully and never cut anything from it.

Regarding M3, I remember Chris Tubb sold few of these on ebay. These “CT M3” may come from different mould than old mithril M3 sold in blister.
For instance, CT could have kept few samples from master moulds tries. But I guess Master Caster is best expert here to tell us.
June 26, 2014 at 9:55 pm #30741
ddaines
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I have always thought that Chris has a weakness when it comes to sculpting horses (and if I am honest Dragons and other large ME beasts). They mostly appear to be lacking in the fine details that he seems to excel at with humanoid figures; almost unfinished in a way.

The hooves always seem to blend in to the fetlock area with no definition between hoof and fetlock, I think a great improvement could be made by adding some fur to the fetlock area (I think Halbarad’s horse is the one exception that springs to mind).

As has been pointed out the horses do appear fairly repetitive in design with some anatomical ‘iffyness’ when compared to some other horses from other manufacturers, and I won’t comment on my pet hate regarding the way the reins are depicted other than to state I’m fed up with slicing my fingers when cutting them off to replace them with foil reins!!! 😆

Still, there must be something I like about them!
June 27, 2014 at 9:51 am #30744
hsf62
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The figures cast in the master mould ( to be used to make the moulds for the production) are cast in a better metal then the figures cast for the sale later on there for these masters are better then the figures sold later on. Master Gerold, then there is also the fact, that whenever you make a mould from a figure (master) the next figure cast out of that mould will be a tiny bit smaller then the original master. This could explain the difference in size of the two horses, also if the horse was cast with a to high temperature the metal shrinks more when it cools down. So there are a few reasons why the first “horse” figure is not exactly like the second “horse” figure you got.
August 29, 2014 at 1:43 pm #31167
Gerold
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Well, here I am again with a picture of the two M3 horses I have. Hope it is big enough tosee the difference…

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