THE HOBBIT MOVIE

MMP Mithril in Middle-Earth The Prancing Pony THE HOBBIT MOVIE

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  • #26724
    Barliman
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      …But only three. Yet somehow I’m not surprised. I suspect the sequels may fare better, once the train has started to pick up speed.

      #26725
      erchamion
      Participant
        Barliman wrote:
        …But only three. Yet somehow I’m not surprised. I suspect the sequels may fare better, once the train has started to pick up speed.

        Yes. Finally, as in the LOTR, the third film will serve to assess the “quality” of the entire trilogy ….

        #26738
        Theobald
        Participant

          Finally I had the time to watch the “Hobbit” (in 3D) last night. – Somehow it left me being disappointed. After all that hazzle of merchandising and providing pics before, I was not surprised. – To me, Master P. Jackson did not find a way himself how to cope with Tolkien’s “Hobbit”. There’s so much incoherence between Tolkien’s first idea of a children’s book and P. Jackson’s adaption, mixed with an attempt to link the “Hobbit” with his former LotR-Trilogy, which, from my point of view was far more better (though also in many parts “far from the book”). I think he could not decide which way he could cope better with Tolkien’s “Hobbit”, so he tried to combine a children’s book with his concept of the LotR-Trilogy.
          I think it would have been far more better to decide what to do. – A “Hobbit”, according to his presentation of the LotR-Trilogy should have been rather more serious, avoiding that many “slapsticks” in the movie. – I simply was disappointed.

          #26739
          ddaines
          Participant

            Saw it for the second time today – this time in 2D. I am perhaps more forgiving of the deviations from the book in The Hobbit than I was in LotR. Some added bits still puzzle me, some bits are still irritating, but overall I like it :).

            Neither viewing was in 48FPS so I cannot comment on this.

            #26741
            Theobald
            Participant

              I gave my comment before. I do not mind at all if anyone is of a different opinion. So, don’t get me wrong please. Indeed, it’s a nice movie, just for watching. But nothing more. – I do dare to comment, Master Ddaines, and of course, I am aware that many seem to like that “Hobbit”- version. – I do not.

              #26752
              ddaines
              Participant

                Not at all Master Tree ;), each to his or her own. As they say it’s not everyones ‘cup of tea’ :D.

                I had to see it again to take my good lady’s daughter to see it, and to catch the bits I missed first time around (I have to confess to ‘dozing’ a couple of times this viewing :rolleyes: )!

                I have to admit seeing it in 2D was more enjoyable than 3D, but I am still curious about what the 48FPS is like.

                #26754
                Barliman
                Participant

                  The 48 fps is amazing! When you see it, you’ll see what I mean.

                  #26755
                  Sam Wise
                  Participant

                    … I was waiting a lot of time before give my comment(s) about this movie…
                    The more I can say:
                    I have the same opinion than Master Theobald, except: “a nice movie” : for me it’s a bad movie! Too fashion, too “modern”, too Producers-Conducted…
                    (I could think that P.J. had good ideas and intends before doing this film, who knows what he was allowed to do?)
                    or:
                    My children love it !

                    And I suppose that the majority of people like it…. :rolleyes:

                    (those who like awful and surrealistic Special Effects, horrible characters (the Great Goblin, the Goblins, Radagast …..) poor dialogues and beautiful Stars! )

                    Sorry, I have to say that… :/

                    #26757
                    Gildor
                    MMP Elder

                      well what were you expecting for maste samwise? an “arts et d’essais” movie who would drive half the wordlwide “customers” of such “hollywood movies” to sleep after 10minutes of watching? :)

                      I take the movie for what it’s meant to be , a special effects and action movie , I can’t judge or comment it on another basis than that :)

                      Still I deeply respect your feelings about it :) everybody is looking at the movie with his own expectations :) but well, you’ve seen the LoTR before I assume, and I’m surprised that YOU are surprised that the Hobbit is this way. I could not have been anything else :)

                      #26758
                      Sam Wise
                      Participant

                        Master Gildor: I’ve expressed my opinion because it’s what I think!;)
                        I didn’t expect a “art et essai” movie, I just think that a movie can be entertaining without all the Modern Hollywood Business … I’m a dreamer, and when I saw that, I didn’t sleep but I didn’t dream no more…

                        When I wrote my comment, I know that I will have such replies… Honesty, no matter, I respect and understand the opinions of each one here and there!

                        For the LoTR, it was such a Great Event for us! I was dreaming because I’ve never imagined that I will see the Books adapted to cinema… and I’ve accepted (and accept yet again) all the defaults…
                        …. maybe for The Hobbit, I’ve seen and read before too much images and infos and trailers before, I was not in a good condition for seeing it…
                        …. and I hate 3D !:P😆 😎

                        #26762
                        Barliman
                        Participant

                          For the record, I think you’re both right! There’s an old saying here in Bree that “You can’t please all of the people all of the time”, and another one that says “It would ba a boring world if we all liked the same things.”

                          Incidentally, I’m surprised no one has commented on the stone giants yet. They were very impressive, were they not? I’ve never managed to form a clear picture in my mind of how they should look, but the movie ones were perfect.

                          #26763
                          Gildor
                          MMP Elder

                            my wife commented on them and she clearly stated she was shocked and very upset at their representations…

                            For her, in the text, which is a tale for children, the stone giants are implied, and could very well be in the imaginations of Bilbo and the dwarves as it happens when it is very dark and you see more shadows than clear faces.
                            The stones falling and the tunder whipping are true, but the giants could very well be “real” or “a view of the mind”…. I think that’s why PJ made them completly out of stone as if the mountains themselves were in motion… and they melt and break on mountain slopes… as if they were rock elementals and not “giants”.

                            I have personnaly nothing against them except that the action and what happens for our dwarves between their “fight” is too much, far too much as compared to what happens in the books. Here it is clearly magical and elemental magic, while in the books it could simply be a bad impression from some folks who never ventured in the high mountains… during a storm

                            #26764
                            Barliman
                            Participant

                              Your wife has obviously overlooked Gandalf’s remark about trying to find a “friendly” stone giant to block up the Orcs’ entrance into the pass. He obviously ragarded them as real!

                              #26767
                              Milo
                              Participant

                                These giants are not the ones I have in mind. But OK, I could cope with it as the scene in the movie is very well done, impressive & spectacular.

                                On my side, I read (in my mind, maybe not in the book itself) “Giants playing with stones”. More or less the mithril representation even if the [mith]M307[/mith] is too gentle.

                                #26777
                                ddaines
                                Participant

                                  I would have warmed to the Stone Giants a lot more had the ‘situation been a bit more realistic’ – from what I could see the dwarves were in an unsurviveable situation with that amount of rock being lobbed around, but I have to accept that the film is made to entertain the vast majority of cinema goers rather than the hard-core. So on balance, everyone appears right in their views and comments :rolleyes:

                                  I do wonder though, what would we have been watching if GTD had made the film? :D

                                  #27026
                                  Barliman
                                  Participant

                                    I’m not sure that Hobbit production blog number 10 ever got posted here, probably in consequence of it coming out just as the film was actually released, but here it is – just in case no one has seen it yet. It’s rather enjoyable anyway – and it does provide the confirmed title for film two…

                                    http://www.thehobbitblog.com/video-blog-10-the-premiere/

                                    I now await blog 1 for film 2!

                                    #27191
                                    ddaines
                                    Participant

                                      Bad news (or irritating news for me at any rate), final movie has now been put back to a December release 😡

                                      http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2013/02/28/69532-third-hobbit-moved-from-july-to-december-2014/

                                      I know time passes quicker these days ever since the ‘World-clock’ was interferred with by the trolls, but just get it on the screen :P

                                      #27194
                                      Sam Wise
                                      Participant

                                        If they have got millions of $$ in December 2012, why not in December 2013 and December 2014 ??????:P

                                        It’s a movie for money, at all !:cool:

                                        #27195
                                        Thingol
                                        Participant

                                          … 😡 :rolleyes: It’s too long to wait….

                                          #27198
                                          Barliman
                                          Participant

                                            It’s hardly surprising – it was more surprising when they said the third movie would be released in August.

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