THE HOBBIT MOVIE

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December 5, 2014 at 7:57 pm #31773
Gildor
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and Gandalf survives too !!

(now we can’t be sure for the movie version… for Fili, for Radagast, for Beorn, for Azog and Bolg, or even for Thorin … )
December 5, 2014 at 9:32 pm #31774
Barliman
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Maybe Fili and Tauriel even get married and ride off into the sunset together…..
December 5, 2014 at 10:33 pm #31776
Gildor
MMP Elder
thankfully Tolkien did mention something about interracial couples and sterility

except for men/elves…
December 6, 2014 at 12:56 am #31777
Turambar
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Who is that “Tiriel” character?
December 6, 2014 at 6:33 am #31779
Barliman
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Name was misspelt. Apologies.
December 6, 2014 at 10:32 am #31781
ddaines
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Well now that the plot has been spoiled and we know who lives and dies……. I’ll have to pass until it comes out on DVD!!! 😆
December 12, 2014 at 9:46 pm #31839
Gildor
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well I have seen the movie and I must admit I’m a bit perplex… at some points I thought I was looking at an adaptation of the “warhammer battle” franchise…
Surely Games Workshop will enjoy this as you can use Warhammer dwarves to reproduce the battle of five armies?

well I will wait a bit to post comments as I would not want to spoil too much…

oh just a reminder : The Battle of the Five Armies takes place in late TA 2941… and Aragorn was born in 2931… for those who saw the movie, maybe you’ll notice there is something odd being said….
December 13, 2014 at 1:18 pm #31842
Gavin
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oh…really?

In Movie-land, the Fellowship of the Ring happens sixty years after Bilbo finds the ring. In the book, its 77 years. Aragorn is noted in the Two Towers movie as being 80.

So, in movie time, young Aragorn is in his twenties when the Dwarves go out to poke at dragons.

But still, I am not looking forward to the film as an example of high art or anything…
December 13, 2014 at 3:13 pm #31843
Gavin
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In other news, I just bought a ticket for the opening evening in Montreal. It’s sort of feeling more like a religious obligation, like midnight mass, than participating in something joyous
December 13, 2014 at 4:07 pm #31844
shadyt
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I will be going on Thursday, early in the day.
December 15, 2014 at 10:11 pm #31852
Thingol
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I looked at the third hobbit before half an hour… and no golden dwarves, no old womans feeding chickens… and yes it was great movie …. first class entertainment…. I am sure that only extended versions of all three films, viewed together, will give us a true “picture” of modern view on hobbits in 21 century… but certainly I enjoyed watching it in those two and half hours….
December 15, 2014 at 10:57 pm #31853
Turambar
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So, my friend, you liked this third part?!
Well- I really liked the second part A LOT- which you didn´t like that much. That means, if you really like the third part, then I must ADORE the third part.
That means, if you wouldn´t liked the third part, then I would like the third part as well.
As I told before. I really I really liked the second part A LOT- which you didn´t like that much.
That means, if you really like the third part, then I must ADORE the third part . . . :rolleyes:

I will wait after Christmas. Because there WILL be that extended version of DOS which I want to watch BEFORE . . .
December 16, 2014 at 7:15 am #31854
Milo
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I saw the final episode this week-end with wife and kids.
It was just as I expected. Great battle entertainment. Virtual images keep improving, that’s amazing.
Now when it come to my taste, I feel there lacks again some of the non-war part, which is what I love in ME, unfortunately for me.
Hopefully this will be much better with full extended edition Hobbit trilogy.
December 16, 2014 at 8:57 am #31855
Barliman
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Turambar wrote:

So, my friend, you liked this third part?! Well- I really liked the second part A LOT- which you didn´t like that much. That means, if you really like the third part, then I must ADORE the third part.
That means, if you wouldn´t liked the third part, then I would like the third part as well.
As I told before. I really I really liked the second part A LOT- which you didn´t like that much.
That means, if you really like the third part, then I must ADORE the third part ….

I think maybe I’ll go and lay down again for a while…..
December 16, 2014 at 10:12 am #31856
Gildor
MMP Elder
truth be told, I prefered this last episode than the second one too.

there are some “changes” indeed, and without battle there would not have been enough content for a full third movie, but still… there are some moments which are very true to the books, even in the dialogues and events and that’s good to see that in this opus, we have a lot of respectful moments, as opposed to this awful “dwarves battling the dragon” in episode 2….
December 16, 2014 at 10:59 pm #31857
ddaines
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Saw the Movie tonight – thought there were some great moments, Billy Connolly’s (oops Dain) opening offer was classic Billy Connolly (as long as you’re familiar with The Big Yin) .

If I am honest, I thought the battle was a bit diluted and needs the extended version to give it its full glory – it is the title of the film after all.

I’ll post no more comments until more have seen the film, I enjoyed it, but would’ve preferred some key climax moments to have been more true to the book .

Aim to see it again next week or so.
December 17, 2014 at 8:58 am #31858
Maenas
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I am going to see the movie this weekend!! getting anxious!😛
December 17, 2014 at 5:49 pm #31859
Theobald
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Well, just believe me that I have been thinking a lot before I now place my comment here. – Most of you will not agree to this, or might even be annoyed. Sorry for that. So:

I watched the first part of that trilogy right in time once having to use those 3d-“glasses” which didn’t fit well to the ones I usually have to carry. Anyway, I got through it somehow, adjusting and re-adjusting. Not to mention all that noise swelling up and down onto me from all sides like waves on a rough sea … crunching, talking, discussing or even worse sounds. – All I remember are situations when I was always wondering if Mr Jackson made a comic or slapstick attempt to “create” a film of that Hobbit, which is a book I still like (sic). One Scene gave it off: Those shots of Radagast on his rabbit-drawn sledge on the green. The way the wizard was presented in the film struck me. On the other hand the way the Dwarves were pictured out was even more disgusting. They simply looked like some very bad figures of a low ranking company trying to produce miniatures. Though I always wondered why they could not hold weapons of triple their size.

For the second part I avoided a cinema (and did not regret). After about three quarters of a year later I watched that DVD, that was in autumn this year, I think. That evening just supported my disappointment I had since the first movie.
So you know what I expect from that third part. Right.

Conclusion:
Peter Jackson should not have tried to do this. Three long movies out of that book. Alas. He should have better left Tolkien’s writings after the very impressive films based on the “Lord of the Rings”. But now turning into broadcasted imaginations of Dwarves and wizards and such like, adding a lot of (or even quite a lot of) what is called “action” according to Hollywood and the audience that never have read the Hobbit is not what I do like very much.

Er, as for those among us who often criticize suggestions for not being canon on the Mithril-board, how can you stand watching those movies?

Sorry, this had to be said, and I just want to point out again that this is a very personal statement which is not meant to cause any harm to anybody. – Ah, yes, thanks for reading.
December 18, 2014 at 1:09 pm #31865
Maenas
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I am watching these series of films from another angle and that’s because of the first movie’s Radagast-rasta-weed-smoking-rabbit-running-chariot thing that you mention. Instead of getting angry I actually laughted when I saw it on the cinema screen … then I got angry because I could not understand how disrespectfull it was against my own image of Radagast these things followed by sadness because a clear pattern is repeating in a lots of films. Is there really a need to put a comical character in a non comical film i.e.: Radagast=Jar Jar Bins in Star wars? So it feels like the film industry is thinking that behind a good film has to exist a recipe: something like a pinch of impossible love, three spoons of sex, ten minutes of humour, 5 ounces of pursuit/chasing…. etc…

I love the hobbit book, I started my JRRT passion with that book, and I took it to the mountains of my grandfather’s village and read it there in the “wild”. So when I saw the first movie, and the weird vests on some characters (no coloured coats and hoodies on dwarfs? and then some scenes completely erased, and some others more than 15 minutes longer than they should be), I thought omg. : “well this is not the hobbit, this is a film only inspired by the adventures on the books“, and because I watch them thinking on that very sentence, I am not that “demanding” with the things they present me, this way I can appreciate the movies and the reason I have more fun watching them.

Now I am anxious with this third part, because I want to see how they manage to resolve lots of things, because they differ so much from the book that I can expect new or different things to happen (dwarf-elven love? goats and wild boars on war gear? are you kidding me? :lol:). Also because I am a fan of movies like “300” and now I am expectant to see the 5 armies battle on the screen, and how they resolve the “Smaug” thing. And why not, also because they are a presentation of the newest computer effects and arts and crafts abilities. You can also feel that although they aren’t as much “worked” as the LOTR cicle, they display uncountable hours of effort and investment in them.

Finally, with those thoughts in mind, I completely understand and share, at least in a big part, what you think about them, so really there is no need for a big tree to rush anywhere, because ents simply don’t rush into anything!!

PS: I also have the glasses issue, so I directly discard watching films in 3D.
December 18, 2014 at 4:09 pm #31867
Milo
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Maenas wrote:

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I love the hobbit book, I started my JRRT passion with that book, and I took it to the mountains of my grandfather’s village and read it there in the “wild”. So when I saw the first movie, and the weird vests on some characters (no coloured coats and hoodies on dwarfs? and then some scenes completely erased, and some others more than 15 minutes longer than they should be) OMG…

Voilà, I totally felt the same as you did. Except I took the book to my cousin’s field to read it.
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