THE TAPROOM 2

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  • #25922
    Gildor
    MMP Elder

      I own the thirteen HoME yes, (the 13th being the index) and the compilation done in order to release those books makes the price, according to me, totally acceptable (well I bought them in english… maybe less expensive depending on the format)
      saying that the provided material is not deep would be quite unfair… some HoME are notes or early writings (such as HoME 6,7,8 and 9) some on the other hand are very rich! The Shaping of Middle Earth, the Lost Tales 1&2, the Lost Road reveal material found nowhere else and they do not contradict the “final” works but adds elements to them. The People of Middle Earth is even a compilation of LATE writings, from after the releases of “final works” and reveal TONS of informations about the birth of elves, the Istari, Glorfindel, the Dwarves family…
      these HoME are quite crucial to the Tolkien universe according to me.

      now the price of the collections and deluxe edition, I suppose you have Harper Collins to blame… but not the author (Christophe Tolkien) :)

      #25925
      Sam Wise
      Participant
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        You have to read the uneven sites in the books also, Master Sam Wise.

        … well, Master Turambar, (I hope that it’s not a sarcastic advice: I don’t like that ….)
        I must precise what I’ve said…. (sorry, but I don’t speak very well english language : I don’t understand ” uneven sites “ )
        I wanted to say that, if my memory is good, they are not described when they happened but later, by Gandalf himself ?
        (the same for Radagast, I believe ….)
        It’s a little bit like if he (Tolkien) don’t tell some parts of the story himself ….

        but no matter (except that I must read again the books !! :)), I’m sure that it’s not always useful to show (or write) all the events of a story in details and even in a chronological way!

        Agree with Master Gildor about the P.J. movies: good action movies, and that’s all!
        but I fear that The Hobbit could be a bad movie…. :P and hope that it will be a good one!
        (I will not see it with those b*********** 3D glasses :cool:)

        #25926
        Barliman
        Participant

          Like you, Master Gildor, I also enjoy the movies, though some of the changes have me almost spitting blood at the screen in annoyance (Faramir being tempted by the Ring, and allowing Gollum to be beaten up by a gang of Ranger thugs? – never!). But overall they’re great entertainment. Perhaps the best way to look upon them is as being derived (not “derivated”, gents!) from a secondary source, or as representing the viewpoint of another Third Age author who got his material from minor characters in the story who put their own “spin” on the dramatic events of their lifetimes.

          Also, the HOME volumes are indeed worth their weight in gold – well, banknotes anyway. The Peoples of Middle-earth volume is fantastically deep and detailed, and much of it was originally intended as a further appendix to LOTR before being dropped because of the escalating costs of the publishing project. It even includes a reference to Dwarf ladies being bearded!

          #25928
          Turambar
          Participant
            Sam Wise wrote:
            … well, Master Turambar, (I hope that it’s not a sarcastic advice: I don’t like that ….)

            Always stay polite, Master Sam Wise! As all others do the same!

            #25929
            Sam Wise
            Participant
              Turambar wrote:
              Sam Wise wrote:
              … well, Master Turambar, (I hope that it’s not a sarcastic advice: I don’t like that ….)

              Always stay polite, Master Sam Wise! As all others do the same!

              that’s what I do !!!
              I didn’t want to offence you Master Turambar! just a problem of language, like I’ve said, and I am accustomed to ask when I don’t understand!
              have a nice day .

              #25930
              Milo
              Participant

                Hi Master Barliman,

                It’s raining outside today. Is there anyway I could dry my feet ? ….except that Wargskin which reminds me my fur is not long enough for upcoming winter ?:/

                Oh, by the way, a warm 3rd breakfast with tee, pancakes, muffins, scrambled eggs, bacon would indeed please me. :rolleyes:

                Kshink… :)

                #25931
                Barliman
                Participant

                  Haven’t got any muffins, Master Milo. Would you kike to try puffins? You’ll have to move fast, though – they don’t stand still on the plate for more than a second or two. If you miss ’em they might at least give you an egg.

                  #25932
                  Milo
                  Participant

                    :lol::lol:

                    #25940
                    ddaines
                    Participant

                      Bolg looks like something out of Planet of the Apes 😆

                      I like the design of the Wargs this time around (the film not GW’s).

                      £35 for Goblin Town – this looks as much use as ‘tits on a fish’ and could be knocked up using scrap products at a fraction of the cost 😎

                      #25943
                      Turambar
                      Participant

                        Planet of the Apes . . . a perfect comparison, David!
                        This white colour is interesting still. Reminds me to an old video from Smashing Pumkins or a scene from Master Gibson´s “Apocalyptica”.

                        The “new” wargs pleases me, too.(the film not GW´s)!
                        The GW wargs look very similar to those from Red Box Games, though there is only ONE at present. :rolleyes:
                        But this one looks much better.

                        #25951
                        Theobald
                        Participant

                          Huoommm … alas, I just need some help … rhuoommm … trying to figure out which releases will be made until the end of this year … hoomm … so, MS-releases are that Goldberry, that bellydancer and maybe Master Erestor, right? … huomm … then hopefully this new Christmas figure … hmmmhom … just counting coiny-things, you know … huom … does anybody know about another release from Phaeton-Design this year – and what it might be? … if it’ll be a long-awaited vignette it might mean another heap of coiny-things to be thought of … rhuoommm … then there are those tickets for the movie-thing having to be bought … etc. … hooooomrhûom … see what I mean? … huom … I’m just thinking about how to save some you-know-what …
                          maybe Master Barliman would offer me some free drinks for free in case I play that Chistmas-tree again this year … huoomm …

                          #25952
                          Barliman
                          Participant

                            If you can find any coiny things wedged between the floorboards you’re welcome to them, Master Tree.

                            #25953
                            Theobald
                            Participant

                              Huoommm … now that’s a clear answer, Master Barliman … rhuommm … to be honest, I wasn’t expecting anything else … huom …

                              #26039
                              Thingol
                              Participant

                                Hi Holger, can we drink something together, it it was a long time since we did not spoke any word in one small corner in our inn… can I order one hobbit tea for you Master Caster…

                                #26040
                                Barliman
                                Participant

                                  Are you going to play miniature golf? (A Hobbit joke.) …. Sorry, I’m being facetious. You meant tea, didn’t you. Do you want a little umbrella and a slice of lemon in it?

                                  #26041
                                  Theobald
                                  Participant

                                    Huoommm …. T, t(r)ee, tea … isn’t it all the same? … rhuom … and besides, Hobbit trees are called Bonsai, if I remember well … huom … they look nice with a small umbrella, but I’m not sure about that slice of lemon … hoommm …

                                    #26051
                                    Theobald
                                    Participant

                                      Huuoommmm …. Master Barliman, in case any wandering Elf, Gildor is his name, comes along you please offer him one or two drinks for free, as he has been working hard lately … huoommm … also very successfully, so to say … huomm … er, payment? you say … rhuommm … just tell him it’s on the house … huommm … would be best …

                                      #26055
                                      Thingol
                                      Participant

                                        Tee is now tea ;) I see ;) One umbrella ( yellow if it is possible ) will be fine …. ;)

                                        #26085
                                        Milo
                                        Participant

                                          Hi everybody !
                                          After visiting new MMP gallery, I need a cup of tea with cakes. MAster Barliman, please tell Nob that one hungry hobbit asked for his 3rd brekfast today.
                                          Ksclonk….Oops, that’s not the right coiny thing is it ?
                                          Kschlink+++ ;)

                                          #26087
                                          imisel
                                          Participant

                                            some brownies will be nice too :)

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