THE TAPROOM 2
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May 8, 2013 at 12:18 pm #27764
huuooommm … and you didn’t even see me, the tree … rhuom … I was just slumbering a bit, yer know … huom … just the same as with the Man in the Dark … rhuรดm … but that doesn’t mean we’re absent … huooommm …
May 8, 2013 at 2:01 pm #27765Solets share a good drink here all together !
Cheers
May 8, 2013 at 5:58 pm #27768huoommm … why should we not, Master Milo …. huom … and mind, please that Master Barliman’s home-made scrumpy really does taste better in company, as they say in Bree … huommmhom? … though I still prefer a bowl of that clear-clean-watery-but-non-sparkeling -watery-liquid … huoomm … cheers anyway
May 8, 2013 at 6:37 pm #27769Hello everyone! A glass of that new dorwinion red wine, please. Do you have trouble come into Mithril forum? Is it necessary to register again? It seems that rather than upgrade page, I have more problems to solve ….. although, of course, the fault must be mine. I am very awkward for some computer issues ….
May 8, 2013 at 7:49 pm #27773huoommm … welcome, Master Erchamion … huom … nice to have you around … rhuom … I tried and re-tried to assemble RogRog for some two weeks by now … primed with the Mithril-spray …. rhu^0mm … the more I did try, the better it appeared … huom … to me it seems him to be an ‘homage’ for the late Angus McBride … huomm … perfectly done and sculpted … rhuom … our barkeep will understand at once, what I wanted to say … rhuom … what I want to say is, that I still cannot find the picture of “Rogrog slaying King Ostoher” by Angus McBride … rhuoomm … that ICE picture … err … maybe some of you gentlemen could help me out please …. rhuoommm …. if you don’t mind …
May 8, 2013 at 7:55 pm #27774[imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/29_tumblr_m7ei5kfgfx1qcufps.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/29_tumblr_m7ei5kfgfx1qcufps.jpg[/imgz]
May 8, 2013 at 8:09 pm #27775Huoommm …. thank you so very much my dear Master Erchamion … rhuoomm… that’s exactly what I needed … hom …
May 13, 2013 at 5:34 pm #27794Hey did you see the link Prince August has posted about Christopher Tolkien interview in “Le Monde”? if you havent , here is the link :
http://www.worldcrunch.com/culture-society/my-father-039-s-quot-eviscerated-quot-work-son-of-hobbit-scribe-j.r.r.-tolkien-finally-speaks-out/hobbit-silmarillion-lord-of-rings/c3s10299/#.UMO644b5Xs2
very informative!!May 13, 2013 at 6:30 pm #27795An interesting read – thanks for pointing it our, Master Elf.
I understand his dismay at what some of the modern merchandising aberrations have done to LOTR and The Hobbit, but is it cynical of me to notice at the same time that, despite their declared hatred of the movies, Christoipher Tolkien & Co are nevertheless richer by an unknown but enormous umpteen-figure sum since the films appeared? It must be an ambiguously difficult dilemma for them, which renders the moral high ground rather difficult to hold convindingly.
May 13, 2013 at 7:15 pm #27799Interesting interview !
May 13, 2013 at 8:29 pm #27801Thank you very much Gildor for this interesting link.
I do sympathize with C. Tolkien, but when JRR sold the rights, even though the books were becoming profitable, he knew he was giving up control. His “other hands” statement attests to this, and so does his desire that readers “fill in the blanks.” I think (perhaps I am wrong) that JRR Tolkien would not have been displeased at all by the incredible unleashing of imagination and commercial success that followed over these years. I have never spoken to any family members, like others here may have, but I suspect that Christopher Tolkien wanted to take this work for his own and control to his own standards how it was presented to the public. Christopher as a young man felt that he contributed to its creation (mentioning JRR asking advice in letters) and ironically, he even admits to his own poetic license in publishing the Silmarillion.
It is really too bad, in my opinion, that Tolkien Estates and Tolkien Enterprises (now MEE) could not work together, as those who owned the rights surely were willing to, at least to a degree. Perhaps the end result still wouldn’t have been to Christopher’s satisfaction, but some influence would have been better than none. Perhaps Adam Tolkien will have a different perspective in the future.
May 15, 2013 at 8:17 am #27806Well, Master Barliman, I have read, that the filmcrew is visiting Bree at the moment for some additional movie scenes.
The question is: do you have enough scrumpy . . . ? And what are you planning for the catering?May 15, 2013 at 8:40 am #27808They’re thirsty fellows, those movie people, but I brewed up enough of the double-strength XXXX scrumpy to keep them going. I’m not sure what their 3D filmwork will look like, though, because it probably already looks 4D after the amount they’ve drunk.
Catering? I just give them an unwanted Hobbit to eat.
May 15, 2013 at 1:42 pm #27810Barliman wrote:Catering? I just give them an unwanted Hobbit to eat.I hope I do not fall into this “unwanted Hobbit” category
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May 15, 2013 at 1:53 pm #27811That depends on whether or not you’ve paid your bar tab…
May 15, 2013 at 4:57 pm #27812huomm … alas, Master Barliman, that reminds me of … hoomm … sorry, I have to be off, cleaning them good-old-trodden doormats, called non-biting-though-smelly-wargskins, the first time this year … rhuoommm … might take some time to give them a good brush … huom … so I’ll be in the backyard of the Pony for a while or elsewhere …. huom … until that bar-tab-thing is settled … rhuomm … so, I’m not here … huooommm …
May 15, 2013 at 5:21 pm #27814twrich wrote:Thank you very much Gildor for this interesting link.I do sympathize with C. Tolkien, but when JRR sold the rights, even though the books were becoming profitable, he knew he was giving up control. His “other hands” statement attests to this, and so does his desire that readers “fill in the blanks.” I think (perhaps I am wrong) that JRR Tolkien would not have been displeased at all by the incredible unleashing of imagination and commercial success that followed over these years. I have never spoken to any family members, like others here may have, but I suspect that Christopher Tolkien wanted to take this work for his own and control to his own standards how it was presented to the public. Christopher as a young man felt that he contributed to its creation (mentioning JRR asking advice in letters) and ironically, he even admits to his own poetic license in publishing the Silmarillion.
It is really too bad, in my opinion, that Tolkien Estates and Tolkien Enterprises (now MEE) could not work together, as those who owned the rights surely were willing to, at least to a degree. Perhaps the end result still wouldn’t have been to Christopher’s satisfaction, but some influence would have been better than none. Perhaps Adam Tolkien will have a different perspective in the future.
I doubt adam will change a lot of things…. ADDING to the world, by adding “other hands” is not the major problem as C.Tolkien allowed a lot of things to be achieved by tolkien enterprises.
The problem mainly comes when there are MODIFICATIONS of the existing mythos of tolkien universe, altering or adding things that are not canon at all, for things that are well documented…
The problem is that MEE has the right to do almost whatever they want for the LOTR… even if it means creating new stuff IN PLACE of existing ones… I can understand his feelings in this casenot to mention there are things unreleased yet that he is alone to know… and which may makethings that have been released by those “other hands” unknowning these elements did exist , completely non canonical(eg : the map of Endor by Pete Fenlon before the release of HoME 4) He can’t tolerate that “extrapolations be made” on his father universe until 100% material be released, which is not near to happen… (saw this history of archipelago in the article…)
May 17, 2013 at 8:37 am #27826Hi Master Barliman,
I thinks it’s time for my 3rd breakfast isn’t it ? ๐
May 17, 2013 at 9:31 am #27829Isn’t it always the time for your third breakfast? If I ever introduced an “eat all you can for $25” menu, you’d eat me out of house and home in no time.
May 17, 2013 at 10:05 am #27832๐
Now, it’s time for 1t lunch ! -
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