THE TAPROOM 2

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June 25, 2013 at 8:22 pm #28127
Thingol
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… you are right Gildor…. there is a difference.. ! I hope this is not new mithril policy and that it will not affect the MS releases…
June 25, 2013 at 9:59 pm #28129
Gildor
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well i am more worried about the scale/sculpting change because it would affect the whole range (scale is important for dioramas) , the metal used for phaeton and the current release provides great detail quality so I have nothing against it provided they keep undercoating the “normal” figurines…

as for scale I checked the “height” size of humans and hobbits … their height does match… it is the proportions of hands, feet, heads, legs..etc that seems… thinner
June 25, 2013 at 10:32 pm #28130
Barliman
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Could they have “shrunk” in the mould during casting? I’m no expert, but I gather this sort of thing does happen.
June 26, 2013 at 1:37 pm #28132
hsf62
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Sorry Barli, a mould doesn’t shrink during casting. :rolleyes:
June 26, 2013 at 2:55 pm #28134
Barliman
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Er, I didn’t say anything about the mould shrinking. Of course moulds can’t shrink. My point was that I’ve heard it said that it’s possible for castings to shrink in the mould.
June 26, 2013 at 6:16 pm #28135
Thingol
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who knows…. Holger know…. and I think that it is possible to made a smaller mould after the receiving the Man’s master figure !
June 26, 2013 at 9:39 pm #28137
xenophile
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Almost all metal castings shrink a little depending on the co-efficient of expansion of the alloy. Some alloys shrink much less than others depending on the constituent metals. Partly due to a low melting point (the less the alloy has to cool the less shrinkage there will be), partly because the metals act differently when mixed. The original PA/Mithril alloy shrank very little but was expensive. I don’t know if was changed but that might explain slightly smaller figures.
And as it’s too late even for second breakfast, I’d share a glass and supper with Milo. Glad to help.
June 26, 2013 at 10:01 pm #28138
Barliman
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Thank you for the very clear explanation, Master X – worth a pint any day. I’ve certainly seen shrinkage on Mithril figures in the past – I have two half-orcs I bought years ago of which one is like a starved or squeezed version of the other, which would seem to match Master Gildor’s observations re the Bilbo + Arkenstone set.
June 27, 2013 at 12:03 am #28140
cameosis
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erchamion wrote:

[imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/29_tumblr_m7ei5kfgfx1qcufps.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/29_tumblr_m7ei5kfgfx1qcufps.jpg[/imgz]

most excellent. trolls to the rescue once again — rogrog is certain to become another future favorite of mine!
June 27, 2013 at 6:18 am #28142
Milo
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Hi Master Cameosis, Brekafast ready ? 😆
June 27, 2013 at 11:07 am #28147
Thingol
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cameosis wrote:

erchamion wrote:

[imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/29_tumblr_m7ei5kfgfx1qcufps.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/29_tumblr_m7ei5kfgfx1qcufps.jpg[/imgz]

most excellent. trolls to the rescue once again — rogrog is certain to become another future favorite of mine!

I just finished yesterday paint this killer … indeed great figure….
June 27, 2013 at 12:51 pm #28149
cameosis
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Milo wrote:

Hi Master Cameosis, Brekafast ready ? 😆

brunch for me (breakfast AND lunch).
June 27, 2013 at 1:10 pm #28151
Theobald
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Huuooommm … this I can clearly confirm, Master Thingol … huoommm … though I still have some details to be painted … huom
June 27, 2013 at 4:22 pm #28152
Theobald
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huoommm … maybe someone could help me with this … rhuoomm … I just saw that there’s a figure called “Aranarth” (Dunelending chieftain) … huommm … number is MM450 LOTR MERP … rhuoomm … just a bit more than 5 Euros … huomm … I do not know anything about it … hoooommmmrhuûom … sculpting definitely is Chris’ work … huom … strange that is to me … hoooommm … but mind, I’m an old tree and might be a bit confused … huom …
June 27, 2013 at 5:12 pm #28153
xenophile
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Barliman wrote:

Thank you for the very clear explanation, Master X – worth a pint any day. I’ve certainly seen shrinkage on Mithril figures in the past – I have two half-orcs I bought years ago of which one is like a starved or squeezed version of the other, which would seem to match Master Gildor’s observations re the Bilbo + Arkenstone set.

Ah, this reminds me that there is another possbile reason for one figure to seem smaller than another. Shrinkage will normally make the figure smaller in all dimensions. A figure which appears squashed in one direction may have been cast with the mould under too much pressure, so that the cavity is compressed and hence the casting is thinner than intended.

And thanks for the pint!
June 27, 2013 at 5:17 pm #28154
Thingol
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http://www.mithril.ie/PBSCProduct.asp?ItmID=11471410 you think on this one….. I do not know why is written M(ithril)M but I see all M ranges on mithril web site have now MM prefix …
June 27, 2013 at 5:35 pm #28156
Milo
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For sure it is [mith]M450[/mith], part of MERP Middle Earth Characters (M443 – M452). You even have the related poster Master Ent.
All pictures for this are there: http://www.miniatures-workshop.com/lostminiswiki/index.php?title=MERP_Middle_Earth_Characters_%28M443_-_M452%29

I wonder if you might need a clear bowl of …. ?
June 27, 2013 at 5:58 pm #28157
Barliman
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But why “MM” I wonder?
June 27, 2013 at 7:05 pm #28158
Milo
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Mithril Miniatures I guess.
June 27, 2013 at 8:09 pm #28159
Barliman
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Yes, but what I meant was what is the point of changing it at all?
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