THE TAPROOM 2

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July 16, 2013 at 7:00 am #28351
Thingol
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…. completion of this response was completely expected !
July 16, 2013 at 8:03 am #28353
Gildor
MMP Elder
Well Chris did not say anything to Lars because well, he was not even aware of the survey itself…. He discovered that when I talked about it and was surprised thus his sentence I feel very annoyed when this sort of thing happens without my knowledge

but as I remind, Chris is no more than a councellor, sculptor and employee at Mithril, he may be co-founder he is not co-owner anymore and does not meddle in politics unless he wants to, and Lars does not inform him if he does not want to…
July 20, 2013 at 7:41 pm #28372
shadyt
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I went through the first 100 miniatures and asked myself; would I rather have a re-mastered version of this or some other new miniature. I found 36 miniatures that I would really like to have a new version of. Several others have already been re-mastered (Goldberry, the Razorak[not yet released])) Some other (mostly MERP characters) that I see little need for them to be re-released.
Having said all of that, I really want to see HD3 released also.
July 20, 2013 at 8:03 pm #28373
Barliman
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Amen to that.
July 20, 2013 at 10:23 pm #28374
Gildor
MMP Elder
Amen bis
July 21, 2013 at 4:12 pm #28375
Thingol
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…. I hope not the whole summer will be so infest on our favorite in…. can I order something cold for drink please… but not scrumpy please
July 22, 2013 at 7:45 am #28376
Mornedhel
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Gildor Inglorion wrote:

“I know for a certain fact that many of the masters do not exist any longer and many of the old moulds have deteriorated so much as to be un-useable ( the damp climate of Ireland has a long term deteriorating effect on the rubber)

My two cents. The moulds at PA are stored in a acclimatised storeroom (a very small one as seen on pictures I posted) with temperature and humidity control.
July 22, 2013 at 10:59 am #28377
Gildor
MMP Elder
this statement was not from me Mornedhel, but from Chris himself… I assume has has witnessed this deteroriation by himself else he would not say that

I assume it means they may have stored them “now” in this storeroom, but those moulds back in 1988… they may not have been treated this way alas and did not have this acclimated storeroom back in those years.
July 22, 2013 at 9:51 pm #28378
shadyt
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Climate controlled rooms may not stop all deterioration, they would more likely slow the occurrence of damage.
July 25, 2013 at 10:56 am #28379
hsf62
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Recasting the old ones is just to much effort. Better producing 100 new figures as Chris has said! The old range keeps its value and if someone wants to collect the old range aswell, there is always ebay where you can find them all within a short timespan as you can see how fast Master Milo had finished his collection! Its all about effort!
July 25, 2013 at 11:28 am #28380
Milo
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Main criticism I read about mithrils (which I do not share ) is sculpt which is “old” age and did not improved enough compared to new sculptors.
Recast for old releases is therefore a non sense to me.

hsf62 wrote:

…as you can see how fast Master Milo had finished his collection! Its all about effort!

And very good friendship here to find rarest ones Holger!
Cheers !
July 25, 2013 at 12:25 pm #28381
Barliman
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hsf62 wrote:

Its all about effort!

Well……it’s a lot about money too. The earlier ones don’t exactly come cheap!
July 25, 2013 at 1:06 pm #28382
Gildor
MMP Elder
well collecting for “collection” purpose is one thing, and investing money in it is “part of the deal”, you know that when you begin collecting…. anything, Mithril is no difference
but “getting your hands” on a given figurine (even if rare) for the practicality and uniqueness of the figurine (character, dynamism) because you want it or need it for “artistic” or “gameplay” purpose is another and should not fall into the “collecion” process.

a REMAKE of some key reference which are missing because there are no other alternative in the further ranges is a good idea…. but, take the M16 for example…. this figurine has , well according to me, no practicality value at all except… it is the M16…. it is only a “collector” rarity…. not an artistic/gameplay “must have” at all..

take the example of

the tavern accessories, the dwarves in spider web, the mirkwood spider, Thranduil in regal garb, Far Harad characters (including camels), Beorn dogs, unmounted wargs (both M25 and M223 share a rarity), smeagol and deagol, radagast on foot, Mounted witch king)

on the other hand , remakes of the M1-100 Gandalf, Elrond, Galadriel, Legolas, Bilbo, Tom Bombadil, Goldberry, Barliman and many common soldiers from gondor or Rohan do not necessarily need recasts and in some case not even remakes : we have so many Gandalf and Bilbo already…)
July 25, 2013 at 4:08 pm #28383
Theobald
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Huooommmm … why do you gentlemen think that a recast or remake of those old figures would really be seriously considered? …hûom? .. . hom … as for me, I do not believe in that …. huoooom
July 25, 2013 at 4:17 pm #28384
Barliman
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You’re probably right, Master Tree. It will doubtless come to nothing.
July 25, 2013 at 6:42 pm #28385
shadyt
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I also agree that it will probablycome to nothing. But if they did remake some, I would want the caravan guards from Far Harad included.
July 25, 2013 at 6:54 pm #28386
Thingol
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Theobald wrote:

Huooommmm … why do you gentlemen think that a recast or remake of those old figures would really be seriously considered? …hûom? .. . hom … as for me, I do not believe in that …. huoooom

I’m also pretty sure that this nonsense will never happen…. At least not, until Chris’s hands will not be able to do new figures… !
July 26, 2013 at 6:57 am #28387
Mornedhel
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Barliman wrote:

Well……it’s a lot about money too. The earlier ones don’t exactly come cheap!

Well not so expensive either as you can check on ebay. A lot of early numbers sold for less than new standard mithrils.
July 26, 2013 at 7:14 am #28388
Barliman
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I always watch eBay, which is why I know a lot of the early ones don’t come cheap. Certainly some can be obtained inexpensively, but a great many can’t. That’s the point I’m making. In addition, my interpretation of what is expensive may not tally with yours – it all depends on how much disposable income you have.
July 26, 2013 at 7:36 am #28389
Mornedhel
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Yes expensive or cheap is everyone interpretation Master Barliman. And I mean cheap and the old one is cheaper than new releases.
I post an offer for old ones for 1 euro on this forum some time ago.
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