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August 20, 2011 at 1:38 pm #19736
ddaines
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Barliman wrote:

That tends to indicate that they’re the same handful of people as usually vote for the MS figures. I thought people other than Fellowship members could also vote for the M ranges? It seems that they’re not, even if they’re allowed to. Doesn’t augur well as regards the price…

No comment!
August 20, 2011 at 2:33 pm #19737
Gavin
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That’s just it, really.

Worse, when the only “new” thing coming out (the MS figures) requires an extra step to purchase – the Bronze status membership – most people won’t take that extra step.

– Wow, lovely figure.
– 21 euro, lotta money, but wow, lovely figure.
– Click
– What’s this? A membership? No, its ok.
– Takes money elsewhere.
August 20, 2011 at 3:13 pm #19740
Barliman
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I’m sure you’re right.

Does anyone know for sure exactly how many MS figures sell each time, give or take the odd few? Because I’m beginning to think that’s how many new M figures will sell too. Doesn’t augur well as regards the price…

…Hang on, haven’t I said that already?

But cynicism and pessimism aside, I guess I shall just have to wait and see – as several people have already said elsewhere on this site. I’m sure if the Tree was here at the moment he’d tell me to be patient. “Don’t be hasty,” or “hoooummmms” to that effect.
August 21, 2011 at 5:51 pm #19750
shadyt
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I think that I have seen one or two bronze members commenting on the new M series. So we will have at least a few besides the regular Gold Fellowship members.
August 21, 2011 at 9:17 pm #19753
Turambar
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The others seems to have a relaxing time somewhere in the world called: holiday . . .
August 22, 2011 at 10:47 am #19757
Thingol
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…. they still have enough time to remove the password, and that send to everyone another newsletter with no password included !
August 22, 2011 at 12:00 pm #19758
Gildor
MMP Elder
they will never have it password free, don’t count on it… it requires some sort of membership, bronze membership, and since their official board does not allow for “flagging” individuals for special access… like it is the case here… maybe I should tell michael to put this system in place rather than having password protection…
a bit like the Ekkaia and Mandos sections…
August 22, 2011 at 6:26 pm #19761
ddaines
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Quendil wrote:

Gildor Inglorion wrote:

they will never have it password free, don’t count on it… it requires some sort of membership, bronze membership, and since their official board does not allow for “flagging” individuals for special access… like it is the case here… maybe I should tell michael to put this system in place rather than having password protection…
a bit like the Ekkaia and Mandos sections…

I still think you need to be registered and have to login that way but maybe the separate password for the M Series part is a bit much?

It would go against the spirit of the whole exercise to make it too easy :rolleyes: !
August 22, 2011 at 6:44 pm #19762
Barliman
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Wouldn’t it.
August 22, 2011 at 7:25 pm #19763
Gildor
MMP Elder
it would be easier to have flags and let people have access to whatever they are entitled to have access…. when they simply log in…. be it GF or regular M suggestions…
but I’d go against access for anonymous personnaly, and I’d keep the GF flag special, but in my mind when I suggested the project, the suggestions and votes for the M range should have been open to anyone who Wants to participate (and thus registered as user)

but….Lars… is Lars…
August 24, 2011 at 8:27 pm #19793
erchamion
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Have you read this news? I don´t know how this will impact to Mithril (if this can influence anything) :rolleyes:

http://www.iii.co.uk/investment/detail?code=cotn:GAW.L&display=news&action=article&articleid=8158195
August 24, 2011 at 8:41 pm #19794
cameosis
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erchamion wrote:

Have you read this news? I don´t know how this will impact to Mithril (if this can influence anything) :rolleyes:

http://www.iii.co.uk/investment/detail?code=cotn:GAW.L&display=news&action=article&articleid=8158195

i like the last part of the report the best:

“END

STRUGUBAPUPGGPB”

right on the money.
August 24, 2011 at 8:42 pm #19795
Thingol
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This is how it works on global market… I do not like all of those GW figures… they are only polished copy of the characters from the film, not from books…. and sentence: “Their products reflect the true spirit of ‘The Lord of the Rings’ franchise and, as anticipation builds for the release of ‘The Hobbit,’ the property’s loyal fans will be excited for these richly inspired offerings.”
I will vomit on this shallow marketing…. but this unfortunately works in global industry… give buttock or admit defeat. Mithril is an art, and art is expensive. Chris is an artist, and they are expensive…. on the end we will admit defeat and have only MS figures…
August 24, 2011 at 8:47 pm #19797
Thingol
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Cameosis you PM mailbox is full… have one short question… about small little envelope… and yes one beer for Gildor and Cameosis… I see them here Master Barliman… Cheers !
August 24, 2011 at 8:49 pm #19798
Thingol
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and one drink for Gavin….I do not met him here long ago !!!!
August 24, 2011 at 9:54 pm #19799
Barliman
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To be fair – as I always try to be – whatever one thinks of GW or the movie interpretation of characters from the books, GW still manage to produce some excellent figures (and some that are less good…). I don’t personally believe that the Perry twins are any less talented than The Man in terms of artistry; the only problem is that their imaginations are shackled by the interpretation they’re presented with by the filmakers. As you say, Master Thingol, the GW range are movie based. They’ve never claimed them to be based on the books.

The extension of the GW licence is old news, though – it’s been known for many months (even that memo is dated February). More of a problem for GW is the fact that their figure sales have plummeted since they shifted to resin casting and hiked their prices almost as high as Mithril’s. I imagine that will have a significant impact even on sales of the Hobbit figures when they’re released.

I’m sure we’ll all shed a few tears about that.
August 24, 2011 at 10:18 pm #19800
Turambar
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Well, Master Barliman, what you said is exactly the truth.
I follow you also concerning other artists like the Perry twins,
Unfortunately my language-abilities are limited this evening, so I only can say:
Yes, me too . . .
August 25, 2011 at 9:48 am #19803
pacofeanor
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I totaly agree with Barliman, the price increased of GW (and the poor quality of resin’s minies!!!!) , is the best news of the year for mithril!

For the quality of GW mini’s, there is two diferent wiews of the Tolkien’s book, you could or not like it , but the perry’s mini’s are at the best level of miniatures sculpting.

for me i use to collect both mithril and GW ranges, because, they have the same origin, the Tolkien’s books, and two differents vision of them!

regards
paco
August 25, 2011 at 9:58 am #19806
Gildor
MMP Elder
the problem about GW but also Heldorado, or even other 32mm from Andrea (not the 54mm) or citadel, or whatever you want…

is realism…

I like Mithril because it respects the same rules as Historical miniature reproduction (like Pegaso or Andrea 54mm) the other companies use “rules” for fantasy sculpting about head sizes, hand sizes, shapes of faces, proportions of body making the figurines “fantasy” but not “realistic”… and this is not always due to the originality of the sculptor, but done on purpose as shown on certain sites about how a fantasy figurine should be sculpted and modify the body proportion to that effect…
I simply don’t like those proportions and fantasy aspects… I love mithril (and Chris works besides mithril) because, though the inspiration comes from fantasy worlds, the figurines are totally realistic and matching the reality of sizes… (well, at least about all humanoids) Even those hobbits, however odd they may be, look realistic and the orcs and trolls too…

Alas, the only over-realistic figurine is .. the Mumak… trying to respect “real world” elephant scale, it does not fit the proper size at all, but since Mithril only uses metal I could not imagine a “rightly-sized” Mumak, with its “castle” on his back and dozens of peoples on it, all in metal… too heavy… too expensive and not balanced at all… actually I even think the Mithril Mumak did quite some counter-promotion to Mithril, as opposed to when GW released their own Mumak… it was a good idea to make one, but doing it this way hurt Mithril a lot I think

no other company or sculptor use such realism technique in 32mm scale…
August 25, 2011 at 10:07 am #19808
Barliman
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No, I’m not a fan of The Man’s Hobbits – they look a bit too “Victorian Chocolate Box” cute for my tastes. Other than the Wild Men of Druadan Forest (who should be way more stocky and “pigmy-like”) they’re the only one of his Tolkien interpretations that displease me.
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