The Taproom

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  • #6177
    ESTEL
    Participant

      Priming problems??

      Well I had no such problems with my 2 Trolls (the first 2 guys made) , so it seems to be a problem of the later primer used. But thanks for using your influence, master Elf and master Tree. The figure sculpts are great, the priming idea also. Now after the priming problem is going to be solved, ther must be some solution for that marketing problem.
      Why the hell is it no possible to sell more of the nice little figures if the product is so great?
      Maybe the Elf and the Tree must use their influence too, so that Aule will talk to Eru himself?

      #6178
      ESTEL
      Participant
        Barliman wrote:
        Ah, my dear Master Estel, you clearly don’t know your Tolkien! Notes published in vol.11 of the ‘History of Middle-earth’ categorically state that the Dwarven ladies have beards like their menfolk. Why else do you think I’d have difficulty telling them apart?

        Oh I must have overread this, ladys with beards?? Maybe Tolkien has smoked too heavy tobacco, when writing this. :D
        I suggest, he was not sure about that (or better, I hope so!!)

        #6179
        Barliman
        Participant

          Dwarves clearly have different tastes in women than Men do!

          #6180
          Theobald
          Participant

            Huoommmm … I think The Man solved this problem wisely … rhuooommm … the only female Dwarf we’ve seen so far is Dis, Thrain’s daughter (M161) … rhuoommm … and she’s wearing a kind of scarf around her chin …. huoommm …hom

            #6181
            Theobald
            Participant

              Huooommmm … Master Estel, as for your query about that MX vignette … huomm … you mind the singular, please … huoomm … though that vignette will consist of several smaller vignettes, depicting different scenes, so to say … rhuoommhom … this is why it might be compared a bit with the old ‘Prancing Pony’ series … but this MX is not meant as a series of releases of those smaller vignettes … rhuoomm … it’s meant to be one piece once it’s finished … hom … so we’ll see … being not too hasty about this … huooooommmhom

              #6182
              Barliman
              Participant

                What stage of the Unexpected Party will actually be depicted? – Or am I being hasty in asking?

                #6183
                Theobald
                Participant

                  Huoommmrhuoomm … not at all, Master Barliman … huom … well, yes … rhuoomm … that’s the point … huommhom … it’s difficult, as there are at least three sceneries to cope with … huom … let me try to explain … huoommm … first there was that Gandalf and the Hobbit … huoomm … yes, Bilbo that was … rhuoommm … you know … hom … poor Bilbo was a bit puzzled about how to provide food and drink to all those Dwarves who unexpectedly met at his place … rhuoomm … and he didn’t know why … huoomm … so all he could do is to serve them well … huom … so he did … huoommhom
                  hom … in between that Gandalf was discussing with that Thurin-called Dwarf some matters … rhuoom … smoking their pipes … huoommm … then after having nearly everything eaten up …
                  there’s the music … huomm … all those instruments them Dwarves brought along … rhuoomm ..
                  and those songs … rhuoomm …
                  … alas … Master Barliman, you might guess how difficult it is to put all this into one scene … rhuoommm … difficult it is indeed … but I can rely upon someone who will make this possible and have it to become real … rhuoooommmmmm hom … it’s not me, the tree …. huommm …
                  that’s all I can say about it at the moment … rhuoommhom

                  #6184
                  Barliman
                  Participant

                    Yes, very complicated. So I’m guessing that the entire set will end up sort of ‘flowing’ through the different aspects of the Party, from the opening of the door on (say) the left, through the smoking and planning in the centre, to the music-playing and singing on the right. Rather like the continuous flow of frames in a comic-book, really. Or something like that. Or not…

                    #6185
                    Gildor
                    MMP Elder

                      I was actually wondering if we’d see the dwarves playing their instruments, harps and all, since, in the first pic you show us they are eating… so I had guessed there would be no music playing… but now that’s a very good news!

                      #6186
                      Theobald
                      Participant

                        Huoommmm … Master Gildor, what you couldn’t see in the picture you mentioned is that Bifur has a little bag over his shoulder in which the top of a clarinette is poking out … rhuoomm …
                        huom …. well, Master Barliman, huom … your idea about the Hobbit opening his door does not match the idea which is intended, as it would just show the beginning of that meeting … rhuoomm…
                        it’s not meant to be what you call a “continuous flow of frames in a comic book” … hom …

                        #6187
                        Barliman
                        Participant

                          Ah well, I was just guessing.

                          #6188
                          Theobald
                          Participant

                            Huoommmm … fair enough … huomm … now we might contemplate about what to do with that empty bowl right in front of me … rhuooommm … any ideas? …

                            #6189
                            Barliman
                            Participant

                              You could always wash it up – the dish cloth is in the sink.

                              #6190
                              Theobald
                              Participant

                                Huoommm … right you are, Master Barliman … so I will do now … oh, that also reminds me of having a look at them wargskin-rugs … rhuoommm … they might need some cleaning, too …
                                rhuoommmhom

                                #6191
                                Barliman
                                Participant

                                  Good heavens, I wish Nob was as helpful. Perhaps you should have his job and he could try a bit of tree-shepherding.

                                  #6192
                                  Theobald
                                  Participant

                                    Huooommm … ahem … , Master Barliman, … I’m not standing around here looking for a job … huom … but … ? … huomrhuom … what is tree-shepherding? … huommm … as for Nob, he’s doing a good job, meseems … rhuoomm … though he’s not that present very often …. huoomm

                                    #6193
                                    Barliman
                                    Participant

                                      Alright, tree-herding then. And if you think Nob does a good job, then I’m a Dwarf.

                                      #6194
                                      Turambar
                                      Participant

                                        Just interrupting your dialog Master Barli and Master Theobald . . .
                                        There will be an orc, riding on a mighty, charging wolf, Master Tolkien called him “Warg”. Such orc has to grasp very well.
                                        AND: also holds a standart . . . ?! How does it work. What is the reason, that a warg-rider should hold a standart?
                                        Doesn´t makes sense at all to me . . .
                                        Warg riders are hunters, aren´t they . . .?
                                        Nevertheless, voting comes into vogue again . . .

                                        #6197
                                        Gildor
                                        MMP Elder

                                          warg-riders are usually forming raiding parties indeed…. Though I can imagine an orc firmly grasping a warg with his legs , letting him carrying a standard… this is out of place because standar-bearers are for armies, organised armies…. And I don’t remember reading anywhere that warg riders were considered a “cavalry” in the mordor armies… though mounted it can’t be considered a “cavalry”… but well, there are those wargamers around that need to have every “army corpse” represented on each side and I suppose an “orc army” on a battlefield would somehow require a cavalary for gaming rules… and the standard bearer being the focus point of the “faction”…. still, it fits for wargaming purposes… it doesn’t if you want to remain true to the texts…

                                          I think there were warg riders on the pelennor fields but not considered cavalry here neither, they were some striking and fast force nothing more… as for “Gothmog riding his abomination-of-a-warg” a la Peter Jackson :) no comment indeed

                                          #6198
                                          ddaines
                                          Participant
                                            rita.de wrote:
                                            Just interrupting your dialog Master Barli and Master Theobald . . .
                                            There will be an orc, riding on a mighty, charging wolf, Master Tolkien called him “Warg”. Such orc has to grasp very well.
                                            AND: also holds a standart . . . ?! How does it work. What is the reason, that a warg-rider should hold a standart?
                                            Doesn´t makes sense at all to me . . .
                                            Warg riders are hunters, aren´t they . . .?
                                            Nevertheless, voting comes into vogue again . . .

                                            Well my idea was that it was not some great standard like seen on some of the standard bearers released in other ranges, more like a pennant – see my entry from the GF suggestion board below…..

                                            WOLF-RIDER STANDARD

                                            Didn’t someone want a mounted wolf-rider? As with Barli, memory of some ideas has faded so how about a wolf-rider with standard.

                                            I envisage a pennant type standard streaming in the wind as opposed to what we normally get, to keep in line with the mobility aspect and what the wolf can carry on its back.

                                            Perhaps the goblin/orc can be holding the pennant aloft and slightly looking back to encourage his fellow riders to speed up, or even be holding the pennant close to himself and sitting in a fairly upright position. The wolf would be running at a fast pace and its pose would reflect this.

                                            I would love to see the orc with a helm of some kind.

                                            I suppose I could push my luck and ask for a spare arm to give the option of an alternative weapon.

                                            The idea was I guess to let CT design it based on that description and to have the standard looking more like a glorified spear which could signify a leader of a troop of scouts, or one of the goblin vanguard at The Battle of the Five Armies. Warg or Wolf, I guess it depends on what book, Wolf-riders are described in the Hobbit (though I am sure it may make a mention of Wargs in there somewhere), and I did ask for a spare arm (wishful thinking :rolleyes:) so that it could be adapted.

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