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December 16, 2009 at 11:12 pm #8347
Gildor
MMP Elder
received them today

well indeed the primer has once again a problem… I informed the Man, who took good notice about the problem and will once again report it…

Fact is, with the “born of hope” figurine, I can assure you that primer DO and STILL exit that can achieve a wonderfull smooth and very mithril-of-the-old-days-like primer… it’s just that Mithril does not use it, but Chris himself does…. and now I suppose that is very upsetting… there is no excuse about the availability of the primer… only about not being able to do it right at the factory…

I really hope there won’t be any primer problem with the MX-UP or it could be disastrous with all the details to be shown on this masterpiece!
December 17, 2009 at 6:42 am #8348
Thingol
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Sadly ! I also I hope that MX UP will be without primer like this or with old primer… maybe the Man have his own supply of old primer… or special formula how to make it so he could sell his secret knowledge of the factory that produced primer for PA….
December 17, 2009 at 8:36 am #8349
Turambar
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You shouldn´t do the same mistake twice !
Or even three times–thinking about the “party”.
Then the Tree becomes angry again, and in this case I suppose very much.
But somewhere he mentioned no problems are there to be expected . . . Why should I NOT trust him!
December 17, 2009 at 8:39 am #8350
Turambar
Participant
Oh, Master Barliman, is there the possibility to get a nice breakfast here . . . a warm toast with some scrambled egg and a cup of, well, coffee?
December 17, 2009 at 4:07 pm #8352
Theobald
Participant
Huooommm … right you are, Master Rita.de, once I said that no problems with the primer will be expected …. huoommm … then I was quoting The Man … that was after the first primer-desaster ….rhuoommm … some time ago by now … huoomm … now I’m worried again, as you might understand … huoommm … I will contact The Man immediately about this matter as I really do not want the MX-UP being smeared with some ugly-grey-glossy-slimy stuff that might even cover details …. rhuoommmm …. I’ll do what I can, believe me … huoom …. hom!
December 17, 2009 at 4:50 pm #8353
Barliman
Participant
Good luck with that, Master Tree. I’m sure the absence of porridge (also known as undercoat) will contribute to the overall quality of the model exponentially.

And my apologies, Master Archer, I had to go out early today to see some suppliers. I hope Nob dealt with breakfast adequately (I’m not sure I’d trust his ability to cook even an egg, but we have to make do with the staff we can get these days; I’d probably do better to put Bob’s cat in charge when I have visits to make – though if I did I’m not sure there’d be any milk left for the coffee, so you’d have to take it black).
December 17, 2009 at 11:30 pm #8354
Turambar
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I´ll take your apologies, Master Barliman. And no worry, I prefer a black coffee. Hot´n ´black !!!
There are more things these times which need an apology . . .
Master Theoblad, maybe the company should make their mind up to give an “undercoat” edition of the glorious MX-project.
The current Christams-figure is produced undercoated as everybody knows, and this is not a negative point . . .
December 18, 2009 at 12:23 pm #8356
Gildor
MMP Elder
when you mean undercoat you mean this “antique finish”?
December 18, 2009 at 4:02 pm #8357
Theobald
Participant
Huoommmm … this year’s Christmas figure omly is available with antique finish …. huooommm … though that finish sometimes was a bit darker in years before … huom
December 18, 2009 at 5:00 pm #8358
Gavin
Participant
So: stupid question:

Can you paint over an “antiqued” finish? Or failing that, can you get the stuff off the figure?
December 19, 2009 at 2:02 pm #8360
Theobald
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Well, Master Gavin, I never tried to get the stuff of a Christmas figure, as I’m a collector. But of course it can be done. That “antique finish” is just put on the figures to point out details you wouldn’t be aware of if the figures were kept without any finish. So you have the shiny silvery appearance but the “antique finish” gives the figures more volume and reveils details better …rhuooommm … as for painting over an “antiqued” finish … huoommm … I would not recommend … huoommm …
December 19, 2009 at 4:32 pm #8366
Turambar
Participant
The answer is: YES ! Of course.
First I have to explain that “undercoat” is the wrong word- of course. I meant: without any primer at all, blank, naked, so to say.
You can prime the miniatures for yourself! In this case. As thin as you like.
Let me explain another thing: I strip of the primer in general, because I want to have the “raw” material for the metal parts which I paint with waterlike black oil-colour.
The rest will be primed with some Humbrol and painted later on. I will do exactly this with Broggha.
December 19, 2009 at 8:45 pm #8380
ESTEL
Participant
Ah yes, I am late in here.
I just have got my last order of Mithril figures today and was disgusted to have got minis with the new ähmm thick stuff or primer on them. Tried to get rid of this juic, but it did only work for the MS-Isildur . Has anyone experience with the new ähm undercoat and how to get the figure “naked”/blank?

I have to say, that I did not understand the debate about the primer-thing some time ago, as my figures always were in the best condition. But that thick juice on Gamlings rally is horrible…..
December 19, 2009 at 10:22 pm #8382
Gavin
Participant
I use Cilit Bang (called Bam! here) and more recently, Simple Green.

Put them in a jar…and wait. It will take a while, but eventually the stuff starts sloughing off. luckily I am in no hurry to paint the Rohirrim. Too busy doing other things, but I suspect it will take at least a week normally to get the gunk off.

Tomorrow I will go retrieve them from the jar of doom and start putting them together. I will report my progress.

Gavin
December 20, 2009 at 10:10 am #8390
ESTEL
Participant
Thank you very much Gavin for the idea.

I tried it with some kind of dissolvent, but as I said it only worked for the Isildur figure, but not for the Rohirrim, or for the Half Orc. It seems to me the Company has tried another new primer for the MS-figures than for the normal M-version being older. Damn stupid as the mail is almost plain now. I hope I can get the best with a nice paint job out of them.
December 20, 2009 at 4:13 pm #8417
Gavin
Participant
You really need to be patient, especially with the new gunk.

Also, invest in a wire brush – the things like a tooth brush, only with brass wires? Gently “brush” the crud off the figure and then (hopefully) you’ll have a nice clean miniature.

Gavin
December 20, 2009 at 5:14 pm #8432
OriginalAragorn
Participant
I’m curious. Does anybody from Mithril read this website frequently? I’ve seen these complaints for quite a while on this site. I assume they’re aware of this problem. I wonder why they don’t address it.
December 20, 2009 at 5:47 pm #8433
Theobald
Participant
I cannot answer all your questions here, Master OriginalAragorn, but believe me that I try to do what I can … though be aware, it’s not my company. Still I’m one of those Mithril-maniacs that still does live.
December 21, 2009 at 11:30 am #8466
Theobald
Participant
Rhuooommmm … hom … well, as I received some news today I just can tell that The Man himself has been aware of that primary-problem and is about to solve it definitively … rhuoommm … so I don’t worry about the UP being primed any more … rhuoommm …
…. rhuoommm … now I have to leave this place before some barkeep comes around and puts all that glittery stuff at me branches and twigs … rhuoomm … last year I even wasn’t allowed to move or talk for quite a while … huomm … so it’s better to leave just in time … hom …
December 21, 2009 at 4:29 pm #8471
Barliman
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Damn. The Tree is brighter than I thought…
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