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April 21, 2010 at 12:58 pm #9569
Problem is they’re focusing on overpriced limited editions for the die-hard collectors, instead of having a wide and nice selection of reasonably priced miniatures in the M series. I think if they increase their catalogue re-releasing some of the most army-oriented series, lower their prices and a do a good marketing campaing, it would work wonders for them.
I need more Wargs-riders!
And Trolls!
And Elven Spearmen and variety of archers and some heavy-armored Elves and….
But they release instead a beggar version of King Arvedui. Limited edition and so. That’s not the way to go
Sorry for the rumblings, I haven’t had enough ale today… or maybe I have had too much already
April 21, 2010 at 1:37 pm #9570I agree with everything everyone is saying, and especially the need for more alcohol. Free drinks all round (but just this once, mark you!).
April 21, 2010 at 2:27 pm #9571I feel culprit one again of being the one who “raised the mob” in this matter.. If I had not posted this 5th year anniversary topic all of this would not have happened, I’d better remainsilent in my corner too I suppose…
(NB: as for king Arvedui being depicted as a beggar, that was my idea to have him so but I agree with you Mithril should focus on regulars, not only armies… rather than expensive “specials”)April 21, 2010 at 3:06 pm #9572No need to say sorry, Master Gildor. You didn´t raise the mob, you make visible which is already there . . .
April 21, 2010 at 3:35 pm #9573Huooommmm … yes … huomm … right you are indeed, Gents … rhuoommm … but I for myself will hold back with adding similar comments here … huoommm … I might get back to all this leter on … huom ..
If you don’t mind, for the moment I would rather like to concentrate on the free drinks Master Barliman announced … huooommmm … see, me tree also have been in the “old” MMP … so, as far as I can remember, this is the very first time Master Barliman is offering something for free … rhuoommm … incredible that is, absolutely astonishing … or … well, one might worry about the quality of them drinks, right? …. anyway … huooomm … Thank you Master Barliman.
April 21, 2010 at 8:35 pm #9575I wrote a long post the other day.
then I wrote it again.But the gist was this: the various series are typically incomplete – there’s always about three or four things they could include. Hence people ask for them on the Fellowship board.
Then the Fellowship figures are, each one, a masterpiece. But each Fellowship figure suggests a diorama – which is awesome. And you think: know what Arvedui needs? A Ranger character staring into the distance, wrapped in furs. Another Lossoth hunter watching over their guests. The other Fellowship Lossoth hunter can be in the foreground… The Numenorean king needs something like an advisor figure or a guard. Theodred needs a mounted standard bearer (not running). And so on and so forth.
You could make about 100 absolutely typical and iconic MERP player character types, which are each valuable as diorama pieces as well as wargame captains and heroes. There’s currently 50 in the entire range.
You can sort of make a pretty decent Dol Guldur army for dioramas and wargames with the Battle of Mirkwood figures, the Mithril-classics Orcs, the Helm’s Deep Isengard Orcs, the Rangers of Ithilien Orcs and the MERP series Orc Animist. It’s not perfect, but it works. Only you need different shield types if you wanted to make them a Minas Morgul army. After all, there’s plenty of Pelennor Fields type figures: having a nice horde of varied orcs in the background of your diorama is lovely. They just need shields. Mithril sells a little packet of mixed shields. They do not, however, sell a packet of themed Orc shields, or themed anyone else shields. You can buy six Gondorian shields from six seperate Gondorian provinces. What if you want to have a scene with some Men of Linhir defending against Corsairs? (The Linhir shield is as rare as hen’s teeth)
At the very least, Mithril should be remaking the warbands (now that Time Machine no longer does). I need a bunch of Gondorian archers! The Lossarnach series represents a decent Minas Tirith force, but it needs spears. And shields.
So while Mithril does not make wargames, armies are useful for dioramas, RPGs, wargames and just painting a bunch of them and setting them up.
At bare minimum, I’d like to see
– The Two Warbands sets released as Mithril classics WITH a pack of optional shields you can buy for 10 euro or something.
– All the post 300 Orcs and Gondor figures released as Mithril classics.
– A couple more RPG figures. There’s a new LOTR RPG coming out this Christmas. I’ve playtested it. I am not revealing anything, but let me say this, it would be great to play with some nice Mithrils. Especially some Orcs. Particularly some Orcs. If your heroes haven’t killed about 30 orcs in an RPG session, they aren’t trying.Finally, I’d gnaw off hands to get those Easterlings, the Wilderland and the Rhudaur series out into the wild. Yeah that’s a year of painting right there, but damn, it would plug some serious holes in the range.
Oh look, I was mentioned in the newsletter.
April 22, 2010 at 5:50 am #9576Master Gavin,
you have qualities of Malbeth the seer or better the mirror of Galadriel, as it shows things that we wish most
. BUT: it would so much sense realising your ideas as the company could make money!! Packs of soldiers and different set of shield to arm them…GREAT!!
Just some little critical thought: In case of the Orcs, the Dol Guldur ones look different from the Pellennor Orcs and all other Orc kinds look a little bit different, so I would prefer building contingents or hordes for large armies, consisting of Hithaeglir mercenaries with Mordor/Isengart shields and so on. Think about the possibilities….nice..
April 22, 2010 at 6:08 am #9577… there are lot’s of comments which frankly overlook fields of your mind guys… I just want to see mithril figures on my computer in my shelf also in the distant future…
I have tried on numerous LOTR forums in Croatia to promote Mithril and I’m sad when I see that I’m only one in my country… so my comment is… we will see soon lot’s of nice new figures… for sure ! RPG guys or art sculptures as Arvedui is… anyway…. I’m going now to buy few old Fellowship figures to fill in my collection gap… there is 25% spring discountApril 22, 2010 at 8:01 am #9578I wonder if it is my aversion against orcs or something else, but when I hear all those people craving for orcs I feel the urge to “smite”
now for it to be more objective, there is currently 530 M references (not counting the gapes) 40 LR, 15 LT so a total of 585 references (i don’t count MC as they are only recasts, nor 54mm) Now if I use my own database search engine with those criteria : All Orcs in 32mm and substract the MC/MCD I get … 60 results among which there are TWO warbands…
So, so far, orcs represent Much more than 10% of all the Mithril range
… and still… there are not enough orcs?
indeed this is nothing compared to Men (in general) who have a total of 240 references including one warband…but when it comes to armies… alone, both Human and orcs have had quite enough to make any battlescene possibles, as you mentionned though, different orc shields would be welcome!!
but definitly there is an army faction that lacks representation : Elves…. Even Dwarves , are more represented than elves when it comes to armies…
Mithril has never considered elves to be an “army” but rather individuals… or very casual on battlescenes… but the battle of the 5 armies, of Mirkwood, of Last Alliance did have many elven infantry! not only “officers” or archers
indeed there is the warforge moulding kits…. but that’s not mithril exactly…
April 22, 2010 at 8:23 am #9579Gildor Inglorion wrote:(NB: as for king Arvedui being depicted as a beggar, that was my idea to have him so but I agree with you Mithril should focus on regulars, not only armies… rather than expensive “specials”)That was my point, Master Gildor. King Arvedui as guest of the Lossoth is great for collectors but it’s not something for the great part of the average Tolkien miniatures fan, who are mainly focus on LotR and tH. It’s more diorama-oriented instead of wargaming or roleplaying, which is not a bad thing but will not bust up the sales.
If they have produced a MV vignette with the thee Trolls, some Dwarves in sacks or tied, and some fighting the Trolls it would have sold like hot cakes. But again they released only the Trolls and in limited editions.
Looks like they carefully avoid any chance of making money
And (/me prepares to run) having some other sculptor a chance could be good for the company. Mr. Tubb does a great work, but some fresh air could be nice (/me run away).
April 22, 2010 at 9:30 am #9581At last- Master Grond takes part in here! Let´s give him a HUUUGE welcome!!! Master Barliman, some more drinks please.
@ Master Arthadan: Well, what is the thing what mithril is about. Not that typical fighting-poses-warrior-thing. That is the reason I collect them.
The reason I collect them also is the skill of The Man. mithril miniatures ARE his art-work. That´s the point. Figures of other artists- and there are so many brilliant ones out there, wouldn´t be mithril anymore. mithril doesn´t stand for a white metall figure in 32mm scale with a grey undercoat!
It´s like to change Brian Johnson as a singer of AC/DC to give some more fresh air to the band . . . :rolleyes:
I seem to be a bit oldfashioned. But for me there is no need of fresh air. Insteda: more professionalty is important as mentioned in the upper posts . . .
And as Master Estel pointed oit, more of whatever!
And don´t tar and feather me . . .April 22, 2010 at 9:39 am #9582Well Mr. Tubb had already some help from another sculptor for the warbands (a Polish one, I think)… and they are Mithril all the same.
About the typical fighting poses there are some “wargaming” ranges (i.e. Corsair of Umbar, knights of Dol Amroth…) and some which are more for diorama-lovers or Role-players (i.e. Village of Bree, House of Elrond). And I love both styles
I’m not speaking bout changing the singer, I’m speaking about some duets and some chorus
April 22, 2010 at 12:07 pm #9584I don’t think we need more Orcs, so much as more availability of the orcs already made. With a variety of shields. So a wider availability of M315, M328, M330 and M331 along with the Warband and a shield pack. (As well as 311 and 313)
April 22, 2010 at 1:37 pm #9585Lots of us still want more orcs, so there is a demand for them if the company makes them.
April 22, 2010 at 2:30 pm #9586I tend to agree with Master Gavin – the company has produced sufficient orcs of most types already (though we still need an orc with a torch), and needs only to reissue those that it has shortsightedly (not to say inexplicably) withdrawn over the years.
April 22, 2010 at 2:44 pm #9587The Isengard forces do not have any wolfriders yet and as for normal orcs (not Half-orcs) there are only two that are not carrying hobbits.
The goblin army at the battle of five armies has no wolf riders accept maybe the goblin king.April 22, 2010 at 4:52 pm #9588Huoommm … [exit Tree]
(obviously trying to clean the wargskins again or even trying to look for an orc with a torch, lighting up the way home for his female orc – who knows)April 22, 2010 at 5:47 pm #9589. . . . . . [exit Archer]
April 22, 2010 at 7:16 pm #9590[re-enter Tree]
… rhuuoomm … it’s the tabroom I’m in? … ‘The Prancing Pony’ that is? … huom … I do not mind to stay here, or better said, I do enjoy … hom … but … alas, how to say? … rhuoomm … sorry, but … methinks there should be a better place to discuss those matters recently referred to, such as planning some company’s sale strategy (if there is one) here … gruuooohhmmhom …
so, please let me remind you that the ‘Prancing Pony’ on the old MMP … huommm … yes, the old one … I called it a room for “news and rumours” … Master Barliman at least will remember, though his … huom … you know what … hom.
I cannot relax here any more with them serious discussions around … though I witnessed that The Man in the Dark still is listening … rhuoomm … good to have him here still … huoomm.Well, what I want to ask is if anyone around here might estimate the total number of them Dwarves of the Iron Hills … ? … rhuoommm … so far there are 15 Mw346 Dwarves … which means there are more to come, right?
The old two released armies (Mw336 Gondor had 29 figures), the old Orc Army Mw337 had 31 figures – not all 31 provided in each set).
The Mw 347 (Saruman’s Army) consists of 20 figures (two are definitely lost).Rhuuooommmm … what do you guess how many more sets (figures) of the Dwarves do exist?
My guess is that there at least must be two more sets unreveiled …. huoomm …
I was surprised by them Dwarven slingers … rhuoommm …Anyway, Master Barliman, if you could please … you know …. rhuoommm
April 22, 2010 at 7:17 pm #9591………[enter Barrow-Wight]…..
Why is everyone out? I have not seen orcs with torches or similar, but if some annoying Neekerbreekers a little further north ….
Maybe it’s time to put back in a Mithril Forum a new Wish-list 2010. It is a way of “pressing” the release of new serie-M with all the preferences we have said …
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