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April 24, 2010 at 8:21 am #9628
Huoomm … 350 Isengarders? … that’s quite a lot, isn’t it? … rhuoommmhuom … don’t forget to add some Ents to swallow them up …. huoommm …
April 24, 2010 at 8:40 am #9629I have about 20 Mithril Ents so far, plus numerous alleged ‘treefolk’ from other manufacturers who serve as Huorns. The Man’s Ents are the only ones who look the way they should. All others just look like trees with legs (no offence intended, Master Tree).
Hmmm. PtPP? P…..the Prancing Pony? But what does the first ‘P’ stand for?
April 24, 2010 at 9:32 am #9630Thank you gentleman for instructing me that the Isengard shields are intended for a Isengard army.
April 24, 2010 at 9:38 am #9631They could also serve in a battlefield rohir…. :rolleyes:
April 24, 2010 at 10:49 am #9633I have idly wondered about equipping a couple of Rohirrim regiments with Isengard shields, in accordance with an article in issue 2 of the old “Tengwar” Fellowship magazine in which John Treadaway (I assume) proposes the notion that Saruman gets the One Ring, defeats the Rohirrim and obliges them to join forces with him in his own War of the Ring against Sauron. An interesting “What if?” scenario!
April 24, 2010 at 10:53 am #9634Let me know if you need more shields….:rolleyes:
April 24, 2010 at 7:57 pm #9636Saunters in, sits and pats dusty clothes to the annoyance of other patrons Hello Everyone, I’m back after extended time studying with Ioreth in the Houses of Healing. Did I miss anything? Just kidding, I tried to read up on some of the scumpy fuelled chats. Hello to all the new members. Armies of Isengard is it? You’ll have to visit FB to see mine;) Dwarves, then? Still waiting for mine to come. I will try to pop by more regulary over the next 3 months! I the mean time, a very large flagon of that scrumpy please!
April 25, 2010 at 3:26 am #9637Welcome back Ken! It has been a long time!
April 25, 2010 at 8:54 am #9643Huoommm … yes, welcome back again here, Master Kenakko … rhuom …
as for your question, Master Barliman, the PtPP-campaign means “Promoting the Prancing Pony”, of course … huoommm … I’m relieved to hear that you have enough “treefolk” to thwart those some hundred Isengarders … huoommm … about twenty Huorns should be sufficient, methinks … hoommmm …
April 25, 2010 at 9:59 am #9644Good, glad to hear it. And welcome back indeed, Master Kennako. Er, perhaps now that you’re here I could just attract your attention to this bar tab with your name on it that seems to have been collecting dust for a while… Hey, where’s he gone?
April 25, 2010 at 11:08 am #9646Master Kenako, welcome back!
It looks like your head is still smoking from all the information pressed into it!:lol:April 25, 2010 at 3:04 pm #9649Thank you, it’s nice to be missed. As the Master Caster points out, the head does have capacity limits. It’s not the smoking, but the leaking I’m most concerned about. As far as the tab goes, since there’s no statute of limitations, I guess we should blow off the dust and add to it by buying a round for everyone! I’ve been browsing some of the other halls here and I have a bunch of random comments: It’s nice to have new members, especially some so talented and wise. Also, the complexities of business in Macroom, well this discussion will never be finished and frankly I’m glad because it means there is still production, albeit slow, of minis. I can remember 1995 when there was a dearth, (and I’m all for more orcs, too!). I think the idea of expansion of Phaeton designs would be a good one. Ebob, a one man show I think, would be an example of what could be done. Plus there’d be a cautionary tale in this example as the eye of Newline sees far…I think a similar thing has occured with Tomarillion!. But then again, Chris’s vision is his own so he needn’t worry!
April 27, 2010 at 8:58 am #9670Hello Master Barliman,
Can you quench my thirst with a pint of your finest ale please ? My business got me so busy last days I could not manage to visit your place since ages (Fri, Apr9 2010 8:24am if I remember well) .April 27, 2010 at 9:15 am #9671In that case, Nob should have finished pouring your drink by now (he’s very slow), so all I have to do is find him…
April 27, 2010 at 11:42 am #9679Thanks Nob to be so thoughtful. My tongue was getting dry.
Arhhh, I feel very good now. Almost as good as when Grand’ma was cooking her special mustard rabbit.April 27, 2010 at 4:40 pm #9685Barliman wrote:Well said, Master Tree. My 100 Isengard shields were for my Isengard army, of course – what else? And it comprises a lot more than 100 figures too; currently about 350 when they’re odedient enough to come on parade. But not all Mithrils, alas, hence the extra shields.Master Shadyt’s desire for extra Orcs is a valid point in this particular regard – there is a pressing need for extra Isengard gunfodder (arrow fodder?), of which we only have two examples (LT9 and LT10). Though of course, any Orc can serve as an Isengard soldier if he’s carrying the right shield and is devoid of eye motifs.
The four Mithril wolfriders that exist, for instance – what’s to prevent anyone calling them ‘Isengard wolfriders’? It’s just a shame that only one of them (MC33) is easy to come by. I consequently use Vendel wolves with GW riders and Mithril shields.
Converting other wolfriders to Isengard wolf riders would be easier if I had the proper shield to work with, I do not feel that the heavy infantry shield is suitable for wolfriders on a scouting/ raiding mission. They should have a smaller shield. Also I did look at the Vendel wolves, they do not meet the quality standards to join my army, I have painted a few GW riders,although I do not like them either.
April 27, 2010 at 5:36 pm #9687Wolf riders are best when on wolves (or wulfs as I like to say) and the Mithril ones are my personal favorites. But so few! One has to convert (cut and paste) and give them round shields. I have done this, but they’re not quite ready to show (read: no time for painting recently). But soon my precious…in the mean time I do have time for scrumpy!
April 27, 2010 at 5:50 pm #9689Huoommm … right, so far there’s only one of them wolfriders based on Mithril releases that carries a (small) shield … rhuoommm … that captain casted for the ‘Salute 08’ event … huom
… to have time for a drink in between all that work always is necessary, Master Kenakko … huom … be sure about that … especially after having hung up some pictures of an Elven Knight in The Mathom House … rhuoomm … let me thank you for that here, too … huom … cheersApril 27, 2010 at 6:03 pm #9692Think nothing of it Master Tree, it is simply my way of apologizing for my long absence! Someday, I may even settle the bill at this fine establishment!
April 27, 2010 at 6:30 pm #9694shadyt wrote:Converting other wolfriders to Isengard wolf riders would be easier if I had the proper shield to work with, I do not feel that the heavy infantry shield is suitable for wolfriders on a scouting/ raiding mission. They should have a smaller shield. Also I did look at the Vendel wolves, they do not meet the quality standards to join my army, I have painted a few GW riders,although I do not like them either.It’s all in the eye of the beholder of course. The Mithril range isn’t 100% perfect any more than anyone else’s visualisation is, because we all see the characters and races in the books differently in our own minds (or at least, we did until the movies came along to pollute them). Personally I’m perfectly happy with the Vendel wolves – there’s usually nothing wrong with the casting quality, though I do remember getting one dud batch a year or so ago. Admittedly they’re a bit tubby, cuddly even, but perhaps they’ve just been well-fed…
As for the Mithril shields, they look good, and who’s to say how easy or difficult it would be to ride a huge wolf while carrying a large shield? Has anyone ever tried it? Cavalrymen in the ‘real world’ have certainly carried truly massive shields without the aid of stirrups or sometimes even saddles, so what’s the diff? There’s no reason at all to believe that Wolf-riders should necessarily have “smaller shields”. Let’s face it, if we’re prepared to accept that any wolf could ever actually be big enough to seat an orc of any description (a pretty absurd notion from the outset, if you stop to think about it), then we should also be ready to let our imaginations wander a little further.
It’s also worth mentioning that wolfriders weren’t solely used for scouting or raiding. Unfinished Tales states very clearly that though they were used mostly “to destroy isolated groups or to hunt down fugitives”, they were also prepared to mix it with cavalry at need, “slashing at the bellies of their horses”, in which circumstances they would have needed as much protection as they could manage. I’ve always assumed anyway that they were more akin to dragoons than cavalry, and would dismount when necessary so that they and their wolves could operate independently.
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