The Taproom
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May 31, 2010 at 3:07 pm #10203
I have received it and I must admit… i was wrong… this little diorama is superb!! indeed the eagle is not of the same scale as the old eagles… but it is actually far better!
May 31, 2010 at 3:30 pm #10204Huooommm … please give me some time for that … huom … two or three days … as I’m a very busy tree at the moment …. rhuooommm
May 31, 2010 at 4:50 pm #10206Huoommm … there’s a problem with the other figure, that standard-bearer … huom … so if anyone wants to assemble the figure I’d like to advise to be extremely careful … hom … the point of the banner easily breaks from the sprew … but not where it should … alas … then the two arms do not fit easily to the body … rhuoommm … so be very careful … hoommm … though the figure is very nice … hom
May 31, 2010 at 5:23 pm #10207Thanks for the warning, I plan on starting the orc standard bearer as soon as he arrives.
May 31, 2010 at 9:07 pm #10209shadyt wrote: ” The other day someone here was discussing Easterling horsemen. I could not locate which thread this discussion took place in but I believe that the horseman in question was referred to by his specific race or tribe. Does anyone recall where this comment took place and which figure was being referred to?”
Well, I ask the same question. Is there anybody out there to give us some help?
June 1, 2010 at 3:34 am #10210Might have been me –
MERP invented a particular tribal name “Sagath” to define an Easterling tribal confederation dwelling close to Rhovanion.
Tolkien mentioned the Balchoth in his works, assumably as a Gondorian description of an Easterling federation (who would have had their own name, obviously).
And I’m too braindead to help.
June 1, 2010 at 9:40 am #10211So, obviously we will have a dunlending musician. A good vote!
June 1, 2010 at 10:20 am #10212Well, it’s just my own opinion of course, and therefore it can be ignored by everyone, but I wasn’t especially pleased when I returned from holiday to find that Michael had once again dictated what could be suggested in the first place, and if I’d been around when it came up I’d doubtless have made a comment to that effect – especially since I thought we’d already covered this issue (regarding our suggestions being restricted on a whim) some time ago. Am I the only one who finds such limitations aggravating?
Regardless of that, well done to whoever suggested the Dunlending. I’ll be interested to see what sort of instrument The Man gives him. Since Chris renders them as Celtic types, will it be a carnyx?
June 1, 2010 at 10:28 am #10213Master Barliman I posted my thoughts regarding rules and regulations on the GF board.
You can suggest what ever mini you dream of, as long as it is not ………………………..
What a great choise between Gandalf and the Witch king…LOLJune 1, 2010 at 11:24 am #10214Gavin wrote:Might have been me –MERP invented a particular tribal name “Sagath” to define an Easterling tribal confederation dwelling close to Rhovanion.
Tolkien mentioned the Balchoth in his works, assumably as a Gondorian description of an Easterling federation (who would have had their own name, obviously).
And I’m too braindead to help.
Yes Sagath was the tribe that I remembered being mentioned. M241 is Brodda the Easterling what tribe is he supposed to be from? And M242 Hithlum Easterling is the other figure from that set.
June 1, 2010 at 2:41 pm #10218Beware! We mustn´t confuse the Easterling of the First Age to the Third. Perhaps this little graphic help us all …. (Sorry, It is in Spanish but you can translated …..)
[imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/29_orientales.png]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/29_orientales.png[/imgz]
June 1, 2010 at 2:51 pm #10219Huoommm … rhuom … so much to comment here … hom
Yes, Master Barliman, it was also me being surprised about the “restrictions” by Master O’Brian … rhuoommm … I also complained about that and then was told to regard of it better as to “having a new idea(topic)” for suggestions … of course not wanting to limit suggestions to a certain topic … rhuoommmm … whatever that means … gggrruoooohhm … anyway, some people kept to their own ideas and suggested them, disregarding this new “idea” by Master O’Brian … huomm … I feel fine with the result of the last vote, as that Dunlending-musician-suggestion wasn’t based on such thoughts …. rhuooommmm …Yes, and I do hope he’ll be blowing a carnyx … huoommm … as I am also sure that The Man’s idea of sculpting Dunlendings very clearly always was based on Celtic art and design … huoomm … I already talked about that somewhere else lately …. rhuoommm
June 1, 2010 at 3:21 pm #10220Huoommm … I just saw your entry after having printed mine , Master Erchamion … hoomm …
that graphic is a good help, I think … huom … it clearly points out the differences in origin … hom … so to me that means, when we talk about ‘Easterlings’ of the Third Age’ we can imagine them as people from the area of Rhûn … huom … of course being different from those from Khand … rhuoommm … the Haradrim, though all of these have a certain common origin in the second age, also took different areas to dwell … huomm … let me try to cut it short, please …
3rd Age:
Easterlings (Balchoth) from Rhûn
Variags from Khand
Haradrim, from far further south, so from Harad and Far-Harad (Southrons)Huoommm … that’s what I’d say interpreting your ‘graphic’, Master Erchamion …. huoomm
June 1, 2010 at 3:42 pm #10221Indeed, Master Theobald. The ´Eastern group` would be more or less set in the Third Age as you say. A little appreciation, the Balchoth were called ´Wainriders`(I think it is in English, ´Aurigas`in Spanish) at the beginning of the Third Age (until 2000 TA or so). Somehow the Balchoth and Wainriders were related, so to speak. If I’m not wrong …:rolleyes:
June 1, 2010 at 3:51 pm #10222Out of interest, what does ‘Aurigas’ translate into English as? Does it mean the same as ‘Wainriders’ (i.e., riders on wagons)?
June 1, 2010 at 3:57 pm #10223Barliman wrote:Out of interest, what does ‘Aurigas’ translate into English as? Does it mean the same as ‘Wainriders’ (i.e., riders on wagons)?‘Auriga’ in Spanish comes directly from Latin. Men in ancient Greece and Rome ruled the horses of the racing cars on the circus.
June 1, 2010 at 4:46 pm #10224Huoommmmrhuoommm … yes, again our dear Master Erchamion is right, I think … huom … I just didn’t want to get into details with my last entry … rhuoomm …
… and those ‘Balchoth’ were those, called “Wainriders” … as far as I can remember … rhuoommm … those people did not always ride only horses, but rather preferred to being carried by them into war on chariots … ruoom …
as far as I know … that’s a bit different from the Easterlings from Rhûn, who were used to ride horses … rhuoommm …Alas, Master Barliman … some things are discussed here at the Pony …. rhûm … why not hand me over a very nice-well-filled and topped-up bowl of that clear-clean-sparkeling-watery liquid …
June 1, 2010 at 9:49 pm #10225Thank you very much for these detailed informations, Master erchamion! It helps a lot finding the real differences.
As far as I am concerned I do not hide my passion about these troups from the east. I can see clearly now . . .
The reason for floating around this evening making my mind up preparing the next project . . .[imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/32_variag_concept8.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/32_variag_concept8.jpg[/imgz]
June 2, 2010 at 2:49 am #10226Awesome Master Archer!
I need one too!!!June 2, 2010 at 4:29 am #10227Brodda is a chief of a tribe of men from the east…of Beleriand. So its entirely likely Brodda was from Eriador. It’s also entirely likely that Brodda was from a tribe somewhat akin to Turin’s people themselves.
The term “easterling” means “one from the east” its an old, and “real” English word with an old Germanic root. So in the Icelandic sagas, some Norwegians are called Easterlings. In the German sagas, the Huns are called Easterlings. In the Lord of the Rings, the Easterlings owe a lot to those Hunnic tribes. The Silmarillion Easterlings are something more old school.
They could be related. It’s likely they are not. MERP explicitly links the Silmarillion Easterlings to the barrow building folk who may have been the ancestors of the Hillmen.
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