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February 20, 2009 at 6:13 pm #4434
Turambar
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And I want to say, that I agree COMPLETELY to Master Gildor : It’s not about what customers want, it’s about “originality” and create interest through it… !
I miss that old ( I have to say) originality. The result is, I didn´t bought mithril figures for years. Sorry. I mentioned it often here:
I am a fan of the old minis under the M100 very deeply !
PS: GW ? Is that a miniatures company too !?
And Yesss: Wendy, that´s a absolute fantastic idea . . .
February 20, 2009 at 6:28 pm #4435
ddaines
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Yipes, I have only been away for a week and what a lot to trawl through. Firstly, though last read, congratulations to Presto and his good lady on the birth of Leah Ann.
Second; fantastic job on Dol Amroth Wendy, just seen the images and it looks a great piece, love the shield design especially. I don’t want to put the ‘mockers’ on it but I would be surprised if you do not receive a Helm’s Deep or whatever the next release is. Another nice piece of work from you as well Erchamion (sorry can’t look back to confirm it is you or I will lose the text).

Gollum. well late to the debate, but my thought (and having ignored it for Shelob’s Lair) would be to think that during his long years and for a short period after he left the Mountain’s darkness he would have been pale and grey, but after spending a few years wandering about the various areas of Middle Earth in all sorts of climates that he may have picked up a bit of colour and perhaps become quite well tanned, almost dark (I think it is either Lothlorien or when Faramir’s mob appears that he [Gollum] is described as a black figure (sorry can’t get exact quote) climbing the tree.

Anyhow, must go, got to go out.

Dave.
February 20, 2009 at 6:31 pm #4436
Turambar
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Well, Mr. DAVE Daines, seems that you have confused honourable Master Erchamion with honourable Master Estel . . .
February 20, 2009 at 6:33 pm #4437
Gildor
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Congratulations master Presto, a very nice princess you have here!

As for my former posts,
well there may be a misunderstanding in what I wanted to quote.
It’s not that I don’t like the figurines of Chris or the armies or anything. They are wonderful armies, and there are “names among them” , no problem with that. I don’t either mean that Chris does not like creating them at all… or he would not do it indeed. Maybe he loves that, I don’t know but I think he also loves other stuff such as vignette , townfolk “situations”.. but time AND market do not allow him to focus on that at the time being.
Now we all agree that it is mithril choice to try to work in the same domain as GW… and as you said maybe one day it’ll end up in tears… but anyway I still love anything produced by the man.

I still find more pleasure though in painting uniques, uncharted characters, than an army with lots of same positions, colors which is a sometimes repetitive. but that’s only me
February 20, 2009 at 7:03 pm #4438
ddaines
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rita.de wrote:

Well, Mr. DAVE Daines, seems that you have confused honourable Master Erchamion with honourable Master Estel . . .

Too much scrumpy after so long a break :rolleyes:, my apologies Master Estel .
February 20, 2009 at 7:17 pm #4439
Barliman
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You can NEVER have too much scrumpy. Take it from me – the worst that can happen is that you’ll go bald and get a pot-belly. At least, so I have to assume by looking in a mirror. My perfect good looks are otherwise unimpaired.
February 20, 2009 at 7:39 pm #4440
Theobald
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Huoommmm … I did not misunderstand you, Master Gildor, not at all … rhuoommm … I even do share your pleasure in painting “characters”, even within an army … huoommm .. to be honest we experienced painting Mithril armies being different from that plastic-stuff that some other companies provide … rhuoomm … and in the ‘Ent’ it’s what challenges some people to create very fine conversions based on Mithril figures to achieve this … rhuooommm …
I once painted the Mw336 and the Mw337 many years ago … huoomm … it was completely different from the experience I made painting them GW-masses … rhuuoommm … there was much more “individuality” in the figures (especially in the orc army) compared to the GW-releases, where you just can alter the appearance of single figures by colour …. rhuooommm
with this Mithril always has been much more better … hom! …. mind the varieties given with the Lossarnach-release (arms, poses, weapons) … huomm … that was a brilliant concept for ‘wargamers’, I think … huuuom … me, I’m just a collector, as you might know by now … hom
February 20, 2009 at 8:21 pm #4443
Theobald
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Rhuoommm … having attached the “parts” of King Brand by now I witnessed a mistake in the picture provided by Mithril …. huoomm … as his shield is somewhat of a Norman-type and is held in the same pose as the one of Thranduil (MS462) the point of that shield should better be posed downwards … rhuoomm … as it makes more sense … huomm … not only because of covering major parts of the body … such as brains … huomm … but also to reveil a falling dragon instead of a rising one … rhuoommm … I dunno who fixed the shield at the figure for that photograph …. rhuuoommm … somehow he was wrong, meseems …. huoom …. the figure is brilliant …. huoommm … absolutely brilliant, I think … rhuoommm
February 20, 2009 at 10:47 pm #4444
jdbrown55
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Well, I haven’t been here in a long time! A whole lot is happening here and it took a while to catch up!
First off, congrats to you Presto! Very pretty daugther!
Second, THE BATTLE OF HELMS DEEP!!!!!!!!
I am the biggest, if not the hugest, Rohan lover that their ever was! I can’t wait until I see pictures of this awesome M-series! I do hope that we get a Eomer on foot! OH PLEASE!!!!
Sorry about the excitement. Hello everyone.
February 20, 2009 at 10:58 pm #4446
Turambar
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Master Theobald, you have said so much about that shield, that my curiosity seduces me to ask you for a pic.
PS: Hello Jason. Good to know, that you didn´t fall into ( Helms ) deep.
February 21, 2009 at 7:26 am #4447
Barliman
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Afraid I have to let you down, Master Marshal – there’s no Eomer on foot in the upcoming M range. But there is one in the Fellowship range, of course…

And one thing I’d add on the subject of painting Mithril (or come to that any other manufacturer’s) armies, is that in no way do they need to all be painted the same! These aren’t parade-ground martinets – they’re warriors from a much earlier, dare I say scruffier, less efficiently administered age, with minimal commissariat arrangements; few would have worn matching trousers or undershirts, and even their uniform tunics – where such things were worn at all – are likely to have varied considerably in colour and cleanliness. Paint some patches on their clothing and add a little grime. There’s immense leaway for all sorts of variations in dress! Let your imagination go a little – the end results can be very effective.
February 21, 2009 at 8:04 am #4448
Theobald
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Huoommm …. I do completely agree to your statement about painting armies, Master Barliman … huom … as that what you suggested is what I also try to achieve once I have the time to paint an army …. hom … what I wanted to point out before was not about creating “individual” figures by painting alone but also about the possibilities to have different poses of similarly casted pieces as we have with the Lossarnach-army …. huoommm ….
February 21, 2009 at 11:56 am #4449
Barliman
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I quite understood your point, Master Tree. I just wanted to remind people that even identical figures can be made to look startlingly different by intelligent painting.

I see your bowl is empty again – and so early in the day. All this talking is obviously drying you out.
February 21, 2009 at 2:07 pm #4450
Theobald
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Huommrhuommm … thank you, Master Barliman …. for keeping an eye on my empty bowl … huoomm … don’t worry. I’m not drying out … huoomm … hom … but it pleases me much to have that empty bowl being topped up … rhuoommm … oh, by the by ‘your’ Ingold is a wonderful piece of metal … rhuuoommm-to-dommmhuom …. hommm!
February 21, 2009 at 3:40 pm #4451
Wendy
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Congratulations Presto! Is your son excited about having a little sister to look after?
February 21, 2009 at 10:18 pm #4457
presto247365
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He’s definitely on board with the idea, and he has no choice now! As I often remind him, it’s not a household democracy and his vote doesn’t count! He does get a little more worked up about some little things than he used to, but he’s still adjusting to not getting all the attention. Things are going very well though!
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February 21, 2009 at 10:26 pm #4458
Barliman
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Speaking of babies reminds me of how amused I was when my friend Michael Perry the figure designer decided to call his first daughter Minnie (think about it…). When he had another daughter I suggested he should call her Minnie Minor, but on reflection he didn’t think it was a good idea.
February 21, 2009 at 11:39 pm #4460
twrich
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Wow!!! this place has become very busy lately.

First, Congratulations, Mike on your new baby!

Next, thanks Theo for reminding me of that Grimbold, although not an M series release he still exists. Now to hopefully get an Elfhelm at some point.

Finally, I can concur with Barli regarding Chris and his “control” over what is produced. But it is also true that he understands the economics of his business, and there are some projects that he does for PA that he might not do otherwise except for the desire to get paid! And as for series that are started and put off, I can attest to that also. I know of at least two other M series besides the Easterlings that are in various stages of completion, and someday, hopefully, will be finished.
February 22, 2009 at 7:33 am #4462
Barliman
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Interesting – I only know of one such ‘delayed/deferred’ set; I wonder what the other one is?? I do know of two other definitely forthcoming sets and have pictures from both, so I don’t imagine you’re alluding to either of them. Hmmmm…

Either way, as I said in this very establishment last year, 2009 looks like it’s going to be a good year for us, Mithril-wise.
February 22, 2009 at 8:05 am #4463
ddaines
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Barliman wrote:

Interesting – I only know of one such ‘delayed/deferred’ set; I wonder what the other one is?? I do know of two other definitely forthcoming sets and have pictures from both, so I don’t imagine you’re alluding to either of them. Hmmmm…

Either way, as I said in this very establishment last year, 2009 looks like it’s going to be a good year for us, Mithril-wise.

Perhaps two old gaffer’s sitting in the Pony in fifty years time would be saying, “2009, that was a good vintage year that was”.

And another voice of agreement from this corner, I once knew a figure sculptor, Mike French of Tiny Troopers who although he sculpted in a larger scale than 32mm, would only sculpt what ever he (or his wife, lol) had an (artistic) interest in. Not quite the same when you are working for a company like Mithril, but I guess the theory is the same.
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