The Taproom
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Hmmm,
I will throw in some new thought in that debate of the GF:
Maybe the time has come, when character figures will be released as regular M-series and more common or no-name figures will be released as GF-figures (have a look at the last Merp-related M-figures!!).
Yes, I am a little bit frustrated too, as I would love to see some characters designed by Chris and cast in lead. We have so many characters even only from the War of the Ring of the late 3rd Age, that have not been designed.
That’s the reason why I do not like some suggestions of the GF (I will not put an example in here as I do not want to offend someone).
I do not need only named characters, but more canonical ones, things mentioned by Tolkien. Yes, I like the Lossoth, Troll drummer, Ent, corsair admiral, Arnorian knight, Haradrim lord, Haradrim captain on war camel … figures very much even not named characters. :rolleyes: But where are all those named characters? 😡Why the hell are GF-members not happy about a Beruthiel but about witch kings and Boromirs?? Beruthiel is extremely special and such a nice collectable piece.
What is really frustrating is, that there are so often debates about that, but at last, the GF-members vote often for non-canonical figures or for characters like the witch king, of whom exist a dozen miniatures. Just have a look at this month’s first and second round of voting !!
Maybe some nice guy or girl with much influence can propose a change in rules, like ‘this month only named characters’??
Well folk, I totally agree with those members, who think hard about laying out much money for figures they seem not necessary to be in their collection, even if you are a die-hard- collector……….
NAMARIE
estelESTEL wrote:Maybe some nice guy or girl with much influence can propose a change in rules, like ‘this month only named characters’??
NAMARIE
estelYes, please vote only for a named character….
The only thing would be how to exclude Boromir and the which king and all the other multyple characters we already have to see a NEW named character????
Well, I rather have a unamed orc female then Boromir the 357th!
That is, master hsf62, lord of casts, exactly the point.
Anyway, I like the Boromir figure very much, maybe I can take some pictures of the painted “pincushion”-Boromir this week to show, that it is a very nice figure at last.
Ah, after days of silence . . .
m m m , sorry, but I have to interrupt, honourable master Gildor. You mentioned, ” Thranduil in armor could very well have been a Noldor Prince of Gondolin” ,
But he isn´t ! He is Thranduil in armor. And this horseman isn´t any nameless rohirrim, he IS Eorl, THE EORL.
Let´s stay at this Eorl-example because he stands right infront of me: such a wonderful figure. One of the few fellowship-releases which gains uniquness.
Having a little art-ambitions I can imagine, that The Man makes up his mind very clearly indeed, what this “named” character should look like. Imaging yourself being a sculptor: would´t you put your soul into this character? Would´t you make your mind about the look, the charcter, the uniquness of this figure you are working on ?
After The Man created Eorl, do you think ( not you personally, Gildor ! ) that he would say: ” mmh – this is a real nice Eorl, exactly the way he should be, magnificent. Again a marvellous job, Chris. Look, mithril-fellows and take him, maybe it is any rider of rohan, or whatever . . .
I agree to you completely when you say, that the originality and exclusivity is not the name of the suggestion itself but also the original aspect of the suggestion…
But another halftroll command is not only another M 180. In fact a female assassin would be more interesting than another halforc command. I think we have all
understood this.
But, hey Gildor, think it over. You are the first one who brakes something for The Man. Another Halforc command is neither another M 180 nor all these new halforcs are other m179 !
I paint Orcs meanwhile, and there a MANY of them, but they are all different. Not all of them are brilliant but all of them are unique.
I am surprised many times about the variety in Chris´ sculpting.
Very windy here in the west part of Germany . . .PS: let me say something last : you voted for Queen Beruthiel?! I painted Queen Beruthiel and she is the most loved miniature of my wife, because she loves cats !
But go into these wargaming shops and ask: hey, does anybody know Queen Beruthiel ? Can somebody offer me a rohan archer ?!
What do you think will happen ? That´s what I mean in my statement couple of days before. And you know that I agree to you concerning the releases as mentioned before too. I need a drink now, what about you, master Gildor?
Is there any ricard in this place . . .And Gavin: I kill for a council of Elrondset also, yes I do . . . .
Gavin wrote:Well, my Eorl has become a Rohir hero on a horse with actual harness. Nearly done – pictures to follow. Eventually I’ll buy an Eorl figure as Eorl.The Thranduil figure could very much work as a Noldorin prince. I really don’t like the plate armour, but I’m willing to accept that maybe the Last Alliance era Elves had such a thing. So if I was making a Last Alliance diorama, I’d use the Thranduil figure. As it stands I am using the Thranduil figure as Thranduil in a Battle of the Five Armies diorama and I’m using various other plate armoured elves there too. It’s not “right” but the guy who will eventually get the work as a gift probably won’t notice! :p
A lot depends on what you use the figures for, obviously.
Gavin
This reminds me that I once suggested without much success to Amdír, King of Lorien and father of Amroth. He is the only one of the Great Lords who C.T. not sculpted in the Last Alliance serie. Maybe now ……
Do you think that if The Man had his word in it…. he would, besides Mithril, sculpt and release on his OWN behalf, figurines such as the PM1 elven vignette or the forthcoming Dwarf Destroyer?…
I’m almost certain that he sculpts armies because he is asked to sculpt armies by Mithril but I would be both happy FOR the man and somewhat disappointed BY the man if I was wrong…Therefore, for quite some time now I have separated what the Man does and want… from what Mithril wants… which, on my opinion are two separate things…
If Mithril tries to win up too many new customers out of GW… they will sooner than expected loose their licence because GW will put them on trial, with Tolkien Enterprise as witness and Tolkien Enterprise will remove its licence to Mithril which will be the end of Mithril… Haven’t you noticed how long it takes now to get licence and authorization from Tolkien Enterprise? the Gamlinf’s rally has been sculpted for a month or two now, and not yet released because it took more than a month for acceptation from TE…. such acceptation would come in a day or two, four or five years ago…
Now all I know is that I’ll certainly have to wait until at least M600, in two or three years, to see non-military regular releases… or vignettes, or any suggestion I would have
and I only buy mithril for purpose of keeping up with my collectionI really think they should not play with fire… but once again, that’s my point of view
It won’t be the first nor the last time my point of view about mithril is in contradiction with the majority of the community+fellowship, but I’ll live with that
… Fact is… I have never painted a single army in the whole mithril range because I don’t like painting armies I only have painted individuals except the gondor army mw337 which was disastrous… all others are still in box… even the old rohirim, the pelennor fields, or dwarves armies and even the rangers of Ithilien…Huoommmrhuoommm … this is a very interesting discussion … huomm … indeed … so we’ll see how things will be developing … rhuom
For sale the new M-serie! My God! The first thing that catches the attention: the price, 9.99 € for single figures!. Almost has doubled the price of figures …….
I’m happy to see my throw-the-money-through-the-window-for-little-bits-of-metal of a husband saying that it’s too much
I think that the question on GF is : who are the members ? are they collectors (that collect figurines for the pleasure of having them), artists (that like to paint those figurines because they are beautiful or that want to make dioramas with them) or wargame players (well, not especially wargame players but all those that don’t collect, are interested by armies and so on) ? What is the average GF member ? Here we have collectors : those love to get unique figurines like Beruthiel. Artists will like unique figurines (named) or may ask for some special types of figurines (well, I don’t know but a female assassin could be very interesting in a diorama as it’s some kind of unique figurine). The third category would be those that are not collectors at all : even if Boromir can be interesting, every collector know that there are quite a number of them. Those may love to get another half-orc. after all, do they have the first half orc captain (M180 if I remember well) ?
Of course every half-orc will be interesting as it will not be the same half-orc but it’s not as fun as a Beruthiel.
On the price… It’s far too expensive for a little bit of lead. *grumbles*
I’ll sell all His figurines one day !
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