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Milo wrote:Hi Master Xenophile. May I offer you a scrumpy or golden cocktail ?
Kind indeed. But I prefer the amber nectar, perhaps only with a little water. And spelt without an ‘e’. Irish is fine but I concede the Scots folk have the better of us there; especially those from Islay. Slainte.
I’m glad she found a home where I know she is appreciated.
Well, kind words from Chris. While I am pleased to have played a part, there is no doubt that credit for the quality of the figures is due to him.
Probably my last word on shrinkage. As hsf62 suggests, any alloy will have a combination of spin speed, temperature and to a lesser extent mould pressure, where it gives best reproduction. A cold mould or a hot mould can cause problems of their own – moulds expand and contract too. Generally, the amount of shrinkage is tiny especially at 32mm scale. It becomes more apparent with larger models. Which is a shame since those the are ones which use most metal and where you may need to use a cheaper alloy. Bismuth and tin are expensive metals. (And when you are using different alloys, there is always the possibility of contamination. Contamination is bad.)
(The only effect on design I recall was making the bases thinner to use less metal. Some of the PA figures which preceded Mithril had very thick bases and these probably made up a third of their weight.)
Other factors besides reproduction accuracy and cost matter too by the way. Mechanical strength is more important as figures become larger or more intricate. And some alloys especially with antimony cast with a hard surface which doesn’t take paint well.
Chris did and probably still does measure things, but at this scale, there is bound to be a little variation figure to figure. And people aren’t all 2M high after all.
So slight differences in size could arise from any number of factors. Even looking too hard!
Barliman wrote:But why “MM” I wonder?I’m not familiar with the current ranges but assuming the knowledgeable folk here would have spotted any such significance, I’d speculate it might be technical (a different alloy perhaps?) or to do with a change to the licensing?
Barliman wrote:Thank you for the very clear explanation, Master X – worth a pint any day. I’ve certainly seen shrinkage on Mithril figures in the past – I have two half-orcs I bought years ago of which one is like a starved or squeezed version of the other, which would seem to match Master Gildor’s observations re the Bilbo + Arkenstone set.Ah, this reminds me that there is another possbile reason for one figure to seem smaller than another. Shrinkage will normally make the figure smaller in all dimensions. A figure which appears squashed in one direction may have been cast with the mould under too much pressure, so that the cavity is compressed and hence the casting is thinner than intended.
And thanks for the pint!
Almost all metal castings shrink a little depending on the co-efficient of expansion of the alloy. Some alloys shrink much less than others depending on the constituent metals. Partly due to a low melting point (the less the alloy has to cool the less shrinkage there will be), partly because the metals act differently when mixed. The original PA/Mithril alloy shrank very little but was expensive. I don’t know if was changed but that might explain slightly smaller figures.
And as it’s too late even for second breakfast, I’d share a glass and supper with Milo. Glad to help.I’m glad to have noticed this. I was given the figure at a later visit and I always assumed it was 1989. But removing a little glue from the base confirmed Gildor to be correct. I’ve added a correction to the listing.
For those it may interest, I have now reluctantly put my 1989 Christmas Aragorn on eBay.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mithril-Miniatures-54mm-Aragorn-Christmas-Figure-1989-/140972504271?pt=UK_Collectables_SciFi_fantasyCollectables_EH&hash=item20d29db4cfTom
I’ve posted a few more images to the Gallery, pre-Mithril CH figures and early M figures. Image quality is a bit better, but I doubt I can do any better without the right lens.
Tom
OK, I’ve uploaded a few to get started, Seems to have worked, but I may need to edit them a little.
Gildor, I’m more than happy to take help where it’s offered! Are you able to use the images in this post to create a gallery or do I need to upload directly? I may take a few more pics of some of the other early figures if they are of interest to anyone. Tom
I’m sorry, I hadn’t realised this was out of use.
Tom
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