archive releases list on official board

[Gildor]

to speak about something else (but it will be better in another topic) I saw Michael released a full listing of all figurines since 1987, including all variants, and there are some I was not even aware about it seems (not a lot, but a few)

[Gildor]

to speak about something else (but it will be better in another topic) I saw Michael released a full listing of all figurines since 1987, including all variants, and there are some I was not even aware about it seems (not a lot, but a few)

[Turambar]

Can you inform, where this list is situated, Gildor?
Being a mithril fan for myself it would be very interesting . . .

[Gildor]

well it was mentionned in the last newsletter and it is here : http://www.mithril.ie/PBCPPlayer.asp?ID=1602995

you can access it via the left panel “Information > Archive releases”

[Theobald]

Yes, it’s a bit hidden down there and I think some things are strange with the list.
I wonder why those two “lost warbands” are listed up there, though they were never released by Mithril (one name is incorrect, by the way). The same is with MS423A. I contacted M. O’Brien because of that and it became clear that he mostly relied upon a list provided by good old Henk. I think Michael himself has just not more than a rough idea about early Mithril-releases.
The lists are incomplete, by the way. LRs are missing and very early “Christmas”-figures from 1993 upwards (the earlier ones are Prince August releases).
Well, I don’t mind as these lists are of no use for me. I think the database here, provided by Master Gildor and Master Milo give a much more better listing including pics and many details (e.g. number of parts).

[Gildor]

well I would not want to advertise too much for my own site, but not only this list is far incomplete and only concerns the M range, but it is also not ergonomic nor easy to navigate at all… it’s a static listing…

Indeed I also provide “complete listings” myself, but 1) you can directly open a reference sheet from this list with all the wanted info, and 2) there are other advanced options which make it quite useful when you look for specific criteria…

What surprised me the most in Michael’s last newsletter is not the fact they provided that (they had told me they would do such a list, three years ago, and never did, and it is a very poor work I must say) but well, the fact that Henk Scholts did not know about my database here… and I’m a bit sad that Michael, apparently did not direct him to our site here and he speaks as if this database or the full list did not exist anywhere….. a pity that Mithril does not support mithril faerylands site…. they act as if they wanted us to remain “unknown”…. and this newsletter is sent to far more people that I care to imagine….

Maybe having a strong audience here on MMP , gathered by MITHRIL advertising for US, would in return bring more customers to mithril (thanks to database and gallery) …

Seems people do not like me a lot at Mithril, especially Michael I have given up trying to help them…

Well that was a bit too much on my mind to keep silent, so I created a thread on the official forum concerning this problem…

[Theobald]

well, obviously by removing this from one thread to another my latest entry went lost … when I posted it. So I try again here:

I know that Henk keeps record about Mithril miniatures very well and thorough (For a very,very long time). What he helped M. O’Brien with those 4 lists (which are precise and accurate as they e.g. also include details of extra-castings of MX-releases) to provide a list of Mithril-production. Obviously, reading the latest newsletter, M.O’Brien was a bit surprised himself about this.
These are just lists, not databases, Gildor.
I don ‘t know about any troubles you say to have with Michael O’Brien or others.

[Mornedhel]

I would like to say I learn variants from the Mithril list provided by Michael I never heard before.
At least for this point, it merits to exist.

[Gildor]

I edited my message on official board… let’s consider I got angry alone … and pointless…. I suppose t he debate is closed then.

I’ll have a drink at the poney…

[Turambar]

Well- for me there is nothing new about that list. Only that some parts are missing, for example the orc variant with raising spear inside the warband box: orcs of mordor.
What the matter about this? Nothing. Evan the factory itself is not able to . . . so- who cares?
I´ll have a drink on the pony too.

[Gildor]

well the list finally seems quite complete with addition of page 5… but I am not sure Henk Scholts himself managed to provide all information as there are still some missing figurines I think
(I may have overlooked him, but I did not see Morlas, I did not see this Hobbit on big horse prototype, nore the 54mm Legolas prototype, nor the supposedly-existing ME1 through ME6 (only ME2)

They provide the Christmas 1989 Isildur vignette in this list though so I assume they aknowledge its existence it would be cool to AT LAST have a picture of that chimera….

Indeed THANKS a lot to Henk Scholts for all this work… too bad I don’t even know the guy myself, I’m sure I could have helped…..no comment

[Theobald]

I still doubt the existence of a 1989 Christmas figure. I never found out any proof of its existence.
Concerning “Morlas” I think it was a private casting by Chris Tubb as first there were only three figures casted. Later on a second small batch was casted.

[Gildor]

well indeed since I received this batch I should actually check if I don’t have one left I could put it on a quizz though many people around here already have his own Morlas…

[Theobald]

Gildor, you know that originally there have only been 3 Morlas-figures casted by Chris for Bombadil as a compensation because Bombadil’s winning suggestion of the “Moria west gate” could not have been produced because Chris argued that the gate would be far too massive and large to be produced. Then Bombadil was very much upset about this and he announced that he then would next time better suggest something smaller as a “Morlas, the Prince of Squirrels” as he wouldn’t be not that massive than the West Gate. So Chris decided to sculpt Morlas for Bombadil as a kind of compensation for the cancelling of the West Gate and sent those three castings to him.
Later on some people had become interested in that Morlas-figure as they heard of him and contacted you, Gildor, about this and then you somehow persuaded Chris to let cast a second batch for those who could be interested in that tiny figure. That worked and I guess that second “batch” wasn’t much more than 20 castings, but I don’t know , of course. I also bought one of the second castings, which I later gave away to a dear friend as I already had one of the first three which Bombadil gave me once.
So, that’s just for the history of that figure as far as I can tell.
There’s a bit humour in it, isn’t it?
On the other hand this might prove that “Morlas” never was a Mithril-release but rather a personal gift from Chris to Roland.
I think it might be comparable to that “Born of Hope” figure that also wasn’t mentioned anywhere.

[Gildor]

ah this is true, shame on me I had also forgotten Born of hope….

well I perfectly knew the history about Morlas. as far as I can tell, the original three castings are owned by Roland, yourself and me. I got the other castings to distribute among collectors.

Now what surprises me is that you said you BOUGHT one? where from?? as I said, I have to check in all my “mess” to see if I don’t have one of those castings left (along with the born of hope duplicates)
there was a problem nobody knew (except me perhaps) about those castings … there was a mismatch number of base and branch… either it fell somewhere during shipping, but there is one missing from the beginning and I own the other part as it was incomplete

[Turambar]

Theobald wrote:

Gildor, you know that originally . . . . . . that also wasn’t mentioned anywhere.

I think, Master Theobald “bought” the figure from Mr. Tubb directly- as most of the people, including myself.
He forgot, that this figure has been sent as a gift at that time . . . the Tree can not mind everything . . .
Anyway:
Master Theobald: thank you for your effort in writing all this, I suppose the fourteenth time . . .
And I am afraid, the story will have been told a fifteenth time . . .

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