Christmas Riddle 2009

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  • #7944
    Turambar
    Participant

      mmmh, I think people haven´t understand this, yet.
      For me I can say that I feel very sorrowful about this fact. Isn´t there a possibility to “switch” a bit? Aren´t there riddles in the back of your mind left, Master Thobald?!
      LAst year the riddles were such beatiful. The chariot, the icons drawn by master Tolkien himself, . . .
      Is it the right decision to “give up” at this point of time?! Maybe somebody can give Master Theobald a helping hand . . . ?!
      Somebody you will leave the fine prizes in order to give this years´riddle a chance – myself- for example :rolleyes: . . .

      #7950
      Theobald
      Participant

        thank you Master rita.de …. rhuoomm … but I’m still puzzled … to be honest … where did Master O’Brian receive that information? … so far it was kept a secret among Master Tubb and me … alas .. but try to remember that Master Michael O’Brian did provide “facts” about the base and singular bases for singular sets of the vignette, that were later, wisely cancelled, before … he also did that in a newsletter and I wondered where his knowledge came from, as then things were not decided at all …
        anyway, I don’t take any harm … as he tried his best to promote this release of Bilbo’s trouble about them Dwarves intervening his life, as there is fun, surprise, feasting, music, dining, carrying dishes, trouble, disorder, harmony, tuning instruments, discussion about where to go, contemplation and … “There and back again” ;)

        #7951
        Barliman
        Participant

          What you need is to quoff some….erm water. Pop over th the Pony and I’ll fill your bowl!

          #7952
          protozeus
          Participant

            Ohhh … :(

            #7953
            Theobald
            Participant

              Huoommm … interesting idea that is, Master Barliman … first time you offered me a bowl of that watery-liquid for free … rhuoomm … unbelievable … huom … (that barkeep pretends not knowing that for some quite a while ago I was offered a life-time-free-drinks in this very Pony)
              such are barkeeps in Bree … alas …
              your offer is granted, Master Barliman, and there’s been no harm taken about your absence .. huoomm …rhuoomm? … at least not by me, tree … rhuoommmhuoommm

              #8041
              Theobald
              Participant

                a-lalla-lalla-rumba-kamanda-lind-or-burúmé

                #8043
                Barliman
                Participant

                  Absolutely, Master Tree.

                  #8044
                  erchamion
                  Participant

                    Lord of the Ring BOOK 3 Chapter 4 -Treebeard- from beginning of The Two Towers :D

                    ….hummm…..sorry, I forgot that it isn´t a riddle …. :rolleyes::lol:

                    #8045
                    Theobald
                    Participant

                      Huoommm … first of all, you’re right, Master Erchamion, right indeed.
                      Though you might be wrong considering this not being another part of a riddle I chose to have continued today … as some riddlers asked me to keep on … so, why not.
                      The answer was quite satisfying as for the source you referred to … but who were them who tried to represent shorter murmurs and calls by the Ents?
                      Let me quote again:

                      a-lalla-lalla-rumba-kamanda-lind-or-búrumé

                      #8048
                      regalrick
                      Participant

                        Hobbits made some attempts to represent shorter murmurs and calls made by the Ents.Merry and Pippin learned it takes a long time to say “Hill” in Old Entish. Sorry for my spelling Master Theobald my keyboard will not put the accents on the Entish “a-lalla-lalla-rumba-kamanda-lind-or-burume”

                        #8050
                        erchamion
                        Participant

                          Master Regalrick are right indeed.:)

                          It could be assumed that Old Entish is sung rather than spoken; each vowel or consonant had many tones, which altered meaning. It is also likely that, to conserve time, more than one Ent talked at a time, observed by the Hobbits during the Entmoot: “The Ents began to murmur slowly, first one joined and then another, until they were all chanting together in a long rising and falling rhythm, now louder on one side of the ring, now dying away there and rising into a great boom on the other side.” [Treebeard]

                          A-lalla-lalla-rumba-kamanda-lind-or-burúmë

                          This is pure entish – although only a section of the entire word.

                          Of it Treebeard says:” I do not know what the word is in outside languages, you know, the thing we are on, where I stand and look out on fine mornings, and think about the sun, and the grass beyond the wood, and the horses, and the clouds, and the unfolding of the world.”

                          This description attaches emotional connotations to the word ‘hill’, and explains (in detail that may get repetitive to the non-Entish speaker) exactly what a hill is.

                          So finally after all that (though you could hardly expect a description of Old Entish to be hasty now could you?!) we can surmise that the Ents try to honor things through their language, so they use a long, winding description to describe exactly how they felt about the object, and its place in the world.

                          Which is why when Treebeard learns the Westron name for hill, he is rather displeased, for ‘it is a hasty word for a thing that has stood here since this part of the world was shaped!’.

                          I’ll leave you with the description Tolkien himself gives of Entish in Appendix F:

                          “The language that they had made was unlike all others: slow, sonorous, agglomerated, repetitive, indeed long-winded; formed of a multiplicity of vowel-shades and distinctions of tone and quantity which even the lore masters of the Eldar had not attempted to represent in writing. They used it only among themselves; but had no need to keep it secret, for no others could learn it.”

                          Therefore not surprising to us that you, Master Theobald, constantly ask the Pony large bowl of clean water. Your mouth should dry easily when you talking ….:lol:

                          #8051
                          Theobald
                          Participant

                            huuoommmhomrhuomhooooooooommm … huom … thank you both for trying to understand trees …. rhuooommm … Master Regalrick was right about the “who were they”-question ..hoom..
                            But also I’m impressed by Master Erchamion’s knowledge about trees … the best definition, or at least what comes closest to something like that, I’ve read on MMP so far … huoommmm … thank you for that hasty description, Master Erchamion …. rhuoommmmhoooooommm …
                            so what now, … huoommmrhuoomm … should I continue to put some more hastily-thought of riddely-things that some of you want to being placed here though this time I disregarded what you call time – or simply I was a bit hasty in doing that last night … rhuoommm ……
                            I have to consider this wisely and for that I need your replies …. huoooommmm ….

                            #8083
                            twrich
                            Participant

                              I am only a man in a dark corner . . . so let me be blunt: Yes, another riddle please!!

                              #8084
                              erchamion
                              Participant

                                Thanks for your kind words, Master Tree. Yes, of course, another riddle!!!:)

                                #8090
                                Theobald
                                Participant

                                  Huoommm … don’t haste, please I just have to try to find some more difficult riddles … rhuoommm … oh, there they are … hoommmm … alas, why did you not mention that some of the answers about the last riddle can be found in the Red Book of Westmarch? … huomm … maybe you never read it … huommm
                                  So, let’s summarize … now it appears to me that
                                  Master Regalrick has 2 and 1/2 points
                                  Master Gildor still keeps his 1 and 1/2 points
                                  Master Erchamion now also has 1 and 1/2 point and
                                  Master Protozeus has 1 point
                                  I hope you can agree with this … hommmm … but … alas … where are those riddles for today, I just had them in my hands some seconds ago … rhuoomm … they might have fled to that upload section around here … I’ll have a look … rhuoommm … hasty riddles they are … huoom

                                  #8093
                                  Theobald
                                  Participant

                                    So I found them riddles at last. Yes, it’s plural again. So there will be three today and all of them will be provided at the same time. I just want to point out what haste means, as there will not be that 24-hours extended limit. First correct answer to each question will gain some kind of point. But there’s only one answer allowed per member for each of the questions in each riddle. OK?
                                    So, let me tell how that might work. Three riddles, 2 points max. each. The points are:
                                    1st riddle 1st question: 1 point
                                    1st riddle second question: 1 point
                                    2nd riddle 1st question: 1/2 point
                                    2nd riddle 2nd question: 1/2 point
                                    2nd riddle 3rd question: 1 point
                                    3rd riddle 1st question: 1/2 point
                                    3rd riddle 2nd question: 1/2 point
                                    3rd riddle 3rd question: 1 point

                                    You see, I worked it out somehow. Why is there no 24-hours deadline this time? Well, I just want to give those of you a chance who are permanently present on this MMP, asleep or not asleep, this is not the question.
                                    I have to hurry now uploading all that … rhuoommm … where did I place it? … huoommm?muoh!

                                    #8094
                                    Theobald
                                    Participant

                                      There are some trees at this place, as you can see. It’s not Taur-nu-Fuin, I think. But where is it and what is the correct name of that place?
                                      Who drew that nice picture with all those tall, thin trees?

                                      [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/9_tumble_hill_near_lyme.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/9_tumble_hill_near_lyme.jpg[/imgz]

                                      So the second of today’s riddles is a quotation again ….

                                      Laurelindórenan lindelorendor malinonélion ornemalin …
                                      Taurelilómea-tumbalemorna Tumbaletaurea Lómeanor

                                      Who is talking(1/2) in which language(1/2) and what does it mean (1)?

                                      Now it’s time for the third of the three ….

                                      [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/9_the_tree_of_amalion.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/9_the_tree_of_amalion.jpg[/imgz]

                                      Here’s another tree. But what’s his (sic!) name?
                                      And where does the name come from- explain, please.
                                      He also has another name … tell me, please.

                                      #8095
                                      Theobald
                                      Participant

                                        I hope you enjoy :)

                                        #8098
                                        Gildor
                                        MMP Elder

                                          1st illustration is a picture made by JRR Tolkien himself, it represents Tumble Hill, near Lyme Regis done in 1928

                                          #8099
                                          Gildor
                                          MMP Elder

                                            the text of the second riddle is in Quenya language used in an entish manner by Treebeard. In short it means : ” The Valley where the trees in a golden light sing musically, a land of music and dreams; there are yellow trees there, it is a tree-yellow land”

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