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  • #211
    Gildor
    MMP Elder

    Hello everybody.

    I made researches on the net and found this :
    http://www.whois.net/whois_new.cgi?d=perilousrealm&tld=com

    This is public information.

    It gives all the information about Marc, his regular address, phone, etc… maybe one of you living in the USA could try to contact him directly… in order to have news of his welfare at least!!

    #1261
    Gildor
    MMP Elder

    Hello everybody.

    I made researches on the net and found this :
    http://www.whois.net/whois_new.cgi?d=perilousrealm&tld=com

    This is public information.

    It gives all the information about Marc, his regular address, phone, etc… maybe one of you living in the USA could try to contact him directly… in order to have news of his welfare at least!!

    #1310
    hsf62
    Participant

    Well, it seems no one of our MMP members from across the big water is able or interested in contacting Marc?
    I really would like to know if the information regarding the old MMP would be still available, even though the site is not up and running

    #1316
    Gildor
    MMP Elder

    from the info I managed to get from the registrar… the domain perilousrealm.com is about to disappear (end of registration)

    The organism who submitted the name to the registrar is Yahoo, that means that behind “perilousrealm.com” which is only a domain name, the website and hosting was done by Yahoo.com . As I am not from the USA I only passed the information so that maybe someone among us living in the USA could contact him. Yahoo removed all content from the website. the folders online are simply empty…
    I heard that maybe Wendy, Theobald, and the google cache may have backups of some of the STATIC information on mmp (such as the interview with Chris Tubb or the description of what MMP is) I am still waiting for the interview from Wendy.

    As for all the dynamic content, which was hosted on a SQL database (what we could see in the site was only a display “mask” of the database content) well this SQL database seems to have been… droped. Maybe Yahoo.com has kept backups… But they would never give it away to any except the owner of the site… it has been several months since, apparently yahoo has not heard news of Marc. They only decided to drop the content, seemingly, after several attempts to contact him to keep his website alive.

    Which leads me to believe Marc may have had some more serious problems than only “stopping his interest” in MMP.
    That’s why .. if some guy from the US could use the phone number provided in my link and try… to contact him directly, at lease to ger Real Life news… that would be kind…

    #1331
    Wendy
    Participant

    Oops, sorry to be so late in replying. The address and telephone number is his old one and having moved so much, I know the mail is forwarded to a new address only for six months (sometimes less than that if they make a mistake). Let me try something and get back to you. It is helpful to know that Yahoo is involved.

    Regarding the C. Tubb interview, I believe Theo is the one who has part of it in hardcopy. Unfortunately, the only thing I have are the pictures I had posted in the forums at the old MMP. If I’d had some warning of its disappearance, I’d have saved a lot more stuff (especially Traveling Elrond pics). :(

    Holger, were you ever get in contact with Marc about the MX (Frumgar)? I think that was the last time I heard from him as I had written him to make sure he didn’t miss out.

    #1340
    hsf62
    Participant

    Yes, I had contact with Marc regarding the MX, but only through his email on MMP, which was the same he has as contact on the gold board. I’m sorry I don’t have more info. Marc wanted to sell of his collection, but this never happened eighter. So at the moment we are not really further then we have before. What a shame.

    #6655
    Maenas
    Participant

    Has anyone tried to find him on facebook??

    #7305
    Halbarad II
    Participant

    A Merry Meeting!

    [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/548_harrydavid.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/548_harrydavid.jpg[/imgz]

    Hi Collector fellows
    Yes it happens sometimes:
    I (hwolf or halbarad II) had the chance to meet ddaines in reality!

    On a trip to United Kingdom/London we had a merry meeting
    and some very nice and interesting chat about collecting Mithril Minis.
    thanks to David for the tasty wine ;o)

    Cheers, Halbarad II

    #7306
    Thingol
    Participant

    Cheers guys…. I wish you more meetings like this one…. :P slurpppp tasty wineeeeeeee

    #7329
    ddaines
    Participant
    Halbarad II wrote:
    A Merry Meeting!

    [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/548_harrydavid.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/548_harrydavid.jpg[/imgz]

    Hi Collector fellows
    Yes it happens sometimes:
    I (hwolf or halbarad II) had the chance to meet ddaines in reality!

    On a trip to United Kingdom/London we had a merry meeting
    and some very nice and interesting chat about collecting Mithril Minis.
    thanks to David for the tasty wine ;o)

    Cheers, Halbarad II

    Your round next time Harry 😆

    #7331
    Halbarad II
    Participant

    [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/548_harrydavid2.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/548_harrydavid2.jpg[/imgz]

    Hi, Yes next round is mine!

    Should I bring some German Beer next time?
    Or tasty mead from busy german bees? LOL

    Anyone wanna come also?

    Halbarad II

    #7339
    Turambar
    Participant

    Mmmh, I must confess this is a invitingly occasion ! We should talk about this.

    #7349
    OriginalAragorn
    Participant

    Question: In looking at the database I notice that not a single “Fellowship” member occurs until Legolas (M65). Why are there so many obscure figures produced before the truly epic heroes?

    Sorry if it’s a dumb question. But I need to know! :)

    #7353
    twrich
    Participant

    It is not a dumb question George.

    Originally, Mithril contracted with Iron Crown Enterprises (ICE) to produce figures based upon their Middle-earth Role Playing (MERP) game. This was a license granted by Tolkien Enterprises (not to be confused with the Tolkien Estate). Over the years, Tolkien Enterprises (TE) came to own the rights to all materials relating to the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings. The books themeselves, games, collectibles, movies, almost everything. Tolkien Estates maintains ownership of all other JRR Tolkien works. That is why Mithril cannot produce any Silmarillion based figures among other restrictions.

    So back to your question: the whole Mithril concept, per the agreement with ICE, was based upon these MERP publications, which included not only characters from the books, but made up characters that the authors of the MERP publications thought might be reasonable to expect would exist in Middle-earth, if it were fleshed out, so to say (Thieves of Tharbad, or Orcs with spears). And then there are the completely made up Characters such as Nimhir the Regent.

    In the begining Chris Tubb sculpted pieces that corresponded to several of the MERP Role-playing books, which of course included many (and eventually all) of the regular Tolkien characters found in the Hobbit and LOTRs. But the first few books dealt more with the common folk of Middle-earth. Thus Legolas being number 65.

    Eventually, ICE lost the license to publish the MERP line (screwed by TE who wanted to license the movie and product rights to bigger, better capitalized companies–New Line Cinema and Games Workshops), but Mithril has maintained their agreement (with TE) to produce figures as long as they keep to the original deal. This is why after we vote on a figure in our FG club we still have to wait for approval from Tolkien Enterprises before Mithril can produce and sell it. The same process holds when Mithril makes an “M” series release such as the recent Helms Deep figures.

    Chris has always enjoyed the MERP body of works, and that is why we still see some pieces produced based upon those publications, such as Dagohir. And enough FG members like some of the MERP ideas, such as Female Assassin of Dol Amroth, that we vote occassionaly for a MERP inspired figure of the month.

    Hope you’re not more confused now than before.

    As for Marc, I also lost touch with him; well before the original MMP site went down he seems to have disappeared.

    #7357
    Thingol
    Participant

    … that is what I say… full and complete information… I also didn’t know this…. !!!

    #7362
    OriginalAragorn
    Participant

    Thanks for the info! (I don’t know your real name, only twrich!)

    That is very valuable information. Thanks for taking the time to write it.

    :)

    #7364
    hsf62
    Participant

    If the tree isn’t in, the man in the dark takes over and supplies the information…

    #7365
    Gildor
    MMP Elder

    I agree with tom (twrich) but i would add two points :

    Legolas is not the first member of the fellowship there is Gandalf already at [mith]M52[/mith] :)
    and ICE lost their TE licence for other obscure matters involving the “over minagination” of Pete Fenlon outside the boundaries of the Tolkien Enterprise licence (such as the worldwide arda map and so many fancy and non-canon material) At one point the Tolkien Estate entered into the “game” and made it so that Tolkien Enterprise prefered not to renew ICE licence rather to be sued for material they would not be allowed to “touch”… (that’s alas the same reason why Christopher Tolkien does not like Mithril… mainly because they are strongly linked, in the past and still now, to MERP material… and everybody knows that MERP is the “nemesis” of the Tolkien Estate…

    #7369
    Gavin
    Participant

    The Estate were part of the issue – the Estate saw ICE’s non-canon material and non-license material and commercial encroachment, but that was on a small part.

    Mostly it was down to TE wanting rid of them. And one of the reasons TE wanted rid of them was to do with a license mess up. ICE apparently had some sort of rights to the movie. And, frankly, ICE was a roleplaying game company with roleplaying game company payment schedules. I suspect ICE were more trouble than they were worth. Also, reading between the lines, ICE’s license probably didn’t have a proper termination process, so TE just drove them to bankruptcy to make sure the license was free and clear.

    ICE was left with the rights to rolemaster, some deeply weird contracts for other of their property and their big money spinner was gone.

    Bye, bye ICE.

    #7373
    ddaines
    Participant
    Halbarad II wrote:
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    Hi, Yes next round is mine!

    Should I bring some German Beer next time?
    Or tasty mead from busy german bees? LOL

    Anyone wanna come also?

    Halbarad II

    ;) Beer, Mead and Jagermeister (spelling?), bring it on, lol. :D

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