Mithril and Zoetrop Catalogue
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I found back the mails, and I think i need to clarify so that there is no “malentendu”
Herbert wanted to have the catalogue hosted by Mithril official site because of copyright issues that could generate problem with Mithril and Lars and Chris…(and I have emails to prove this) Still I did not say I did not understand nor did not share the concern I actually agreed it would perhaps be better in this case…
why I do not blame zoetrop at all, his work is superb and it is available for everybody, I don’t care where it is hosted
I entitled this thread MITHRIL and zoetrop catalogue…. the problem is with mithril not at all with the catalogue…
now maybe you think I should restrain myself and keep what I think all unto myself…. maybe you’re right, I should stay silent….
I just want to explain that there is nothing agaisnt the catalogue!
Years to come will tell me… if what i deeply feel is right, or wrong…it’s too early to know…
oh and by the way, did you find anyway to download the catalogue? it was meant to be downloadable originally… but it seems all you can do at the moment is print pages two by two…
Gildor Inglorion wrote:I have nothing against the catalogue as I think this is a great thing!………….. Let me ask though…how used is my database search engine used? do you find it useful to be able to search every female character, or every rohirim, or every figurine having a sword as primary weapon? It takes time to fill all those fields but I have not got any feedback on its utility?
I have used the database several times to identify or search for figures (basic searches I must admit) – especially those that I think I remember but may be hidden amongst the vast piles of figures in my very eloquently described ‘disorganised’ cupboard full of figures :lol:; I also used it to search for the Riddles in the Dark release which I mistakenly thought had been omitted and posted to that effect until I looked closer.
I have also used it to identify/confirm that there are a couple of figures that I may have thought I had, but in fact do not have (not important to me as such, but interesting to realise the gaps
).I have found it easy to use albeit perhaps based on the previous example I didn’t see the link to Riddles in the Dark straight away.
I will most certainly be using it in the future to try and identify which arm/sword/spear/shield etc. goes with which body as foolishly over the years I have detached these various bits from a lot of the figures :rolleyes:
Feedback to its use – I must admit to having taken it for granted that it was there
.Having now briefly looked at Master Zoetrops creation I will also use this as a reference guide and I congratulate him on the achievement it is a very impressive piece of work, visually very professionally done and the inclusion of Master Turambar’s work at the end is a great touch. I hope Mithril sort out better ways to print it if that is Zoetrops intention.
Both of these references are a credit to their creators.
it’s as I had feared, a bit….
if people use the database with basic search only , there is no great difference between this base and herbert’s catalogue, except Herbert catalogue is graphically more interesting and accomplished!
but I cannot hope that everybody uses the tools
Still maybe I should plan on adding possibilities to have printer-friendly stuff on this site, as there is nothing printer friendly at the moment…. neither database, nor collection manager…mmhh not sure I understant when i have been insulting or if i did grief to you I apologize…
indeed you have pics of your dioramas in the catalogue. I did not know you had a part in his decision or on trying to motivate him to put it here or there…when I say I don’t care where it is hosted I mean that no matter where it is hosted it is a great work and that won’t change anything to that. it could have been hosted in several places too.
I dont see where I wronged you Turambar?
nor where I wronged Zoetrop too actually… I have always praised Zoetrop’s fantastic work over the years!well sorry for my words if I did a mistake, I had and still has nothing against anybody here, and especially not you Turambar nor Zoetrop!
Gildor Inglorion wrote:it’s as I had feared, a bit….if people use the database with basic search only , there is no great difference between this base and herbert’s catalogue, except Herbert catalogue is graphically more interesting and accomplished!
but I cannot hope that everybody uses the tools
Still maybe I should plan on adding possibilities to have printer-friendly stuff on this site, as there is nothing printer friendly at the moment…. neither database, nor collection manager…I am sure others have used its more in depth functions Gildor and will respond in good time
, for my wants I have only needed up until now the basic functions as I will quite happily swap bits and pieces from different figures to suit my purposes so for me personally it does not matter if a figure is painted and not assembled as released as I am not a Collector, just a modeller who collects Mithril 
.Don’t lose heart about the value of what you have created Gildor, as they say in Barlimans part of Bree it’s not a pissing competition 😆 both of these references are highly valued.
Perhaps when tempers have cooled down a bit we should all drop by the Pony and have a good ‘PU’
well indeed, updating MMP database is easier and faster than updating a static catalogue… the purpose is not the same too
Gildor Inglorion wrote:Ah, I see the catalogues is now totally available in two pdf! now this is great!!!“Just” downloaded
He !Gildor Inglorion wrote:well indeed, updating MMP database is easier and faster than updating a static catalogue… the purpose is not the same tooBut I can take catalogue with me to camp deep in the woods
Gildor Inglorion wrote:well indeed, updating MMP database is easier and faster than updating a static catalogue… the purpose is not the same tooI prefer your web site and your live and dynamic database on our forum…. but to have this catalog is just a great thing for any collector. So thanks Herbert for this !!!!
Oh I know that perfectly, I too use the zoetrop catalogue many many times when checking my glasscases, I am not in front of my computer and then I need the paper version
though I may have to print only the missing sheets, no need to print the pages that have not changed since the 2009 version I think (except for the magnificient dioramas from Turambar!)
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