MMP vigette project

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August 30, 2011 at 8:18 am #19909
imisel
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Turambar wrote:

Can you post a link of the Fenryl auberge, Master imisel? I am not quiet sure about Fenryl . . . Without having an alternative yet.

Turambar, a very busy weekend, I cannot take the photos to the one I have. I’ll try do it this afternoon at last.
August 30, 2011 at 9:59 am #19912
hsf62
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I suggest to not include any not converted minis. Only converted figures representing one of the regulars in the Pony. I believe everyone is capable of creating hers/his own “Pony” if you got the figures and then you can put as many additional figures in as you want.
August 30, 2011 at 10:44 am #19914
Milo
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I think we shall first focus on making a common MMP vignette, containing converted figures, and at least “Prancing Pony” set around, this to use some mithril original stuff.

Then, once the final sketch is achieved, if some of us can manage to recast conversions for everyone, this would be over fantastic that each of us build his own prancing pony.
August 30, 2011 at 10:48 am #19916
Milo
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Master Caster, did you receive my mails ? :rolleyes:
August 30, 2011 at 2:44 pm #19922
Gildor
MMP Elder
I agree with Holger, in order to remove any ambiguity about figurines being genuine or not, every “actor” of the MMP Pony should be a conversion (from slight conversion to big conversion) but conversion anyway… THEN all figurines should be base free, to be fixed on the base of the diorama… now the diorama has to be produced too

there should be a “common base” , same for everybody, including furnitures, base, characters all of them clearly being conversions from Mithril (or personal creation for base or furniture

then anybody would be free to adapt the final scene to his own designs by adding further details or more figurines if need be, but a base would be needed

as we are all painters… maybe all of those scenes could be painted by each of us, but the base would be only the sculpture and casting, not the painting? it will be hard to choose a painter among us all as there are all very talented painters with different styles… so if this piece is supposed to be duplicated for every member, why not letting all the final owners paint their own set?
August 30, 2011 at 3:12 pm #19925
Milo
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I feel we would better have an ‘all together official’ MMP vignette first, including furnitures making, conversions and paintings.

If made togehter with many participants, this would reflect the “cultural mixture” from all of us we witness all the time here.
And it would be more fun to work on the same project 😆 (like Travelling Elrond), than everyone on his home side. 😎

Off course, if recasts are possible at the end, then everyone will be free to make his own “home” MMP vignette.

I agree also the base shall be done first.
August 30, 2011 at 6:51 pm #19933
twrich
Participant
Holger, I missed that part about not liking recasts of conversions. But as Gildor said, I believe in Chris’s mind “recasted conversions” means a base with the Mithril/C Tubb and reference stamp on the base. I know his fear is that collectors buy a recast thinking it is original, and especially he is worried about dozens of rares being recast exactly and going on ebay.

I would think that it should not matter if a recast was made of a conversion–that really doesn’t impact Mithril sales or Chris’s art, especially if the base has no Mithril logo or reference number, and they were not being sold to anyone. And speaking of bases, Master Caster, perhaps you should just smooth out any original base with some material so no mention of Mithril/Chris exists and then carve “HSF” on any converted recast you want to make? Some thoughts.
September 1, 2011 at 6:13 pm #20007
imisel
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Turambar wrote:

Can you post a link of the Fenryl auberge, Master imisel? I am not quiet sure about Fenryl . . . Without having an alternative yet.

Hello, Turambar. Sorry for the dealy. Here are the photos of the auberge I have, with photo in the box, walls, floor and part of the forniture:

[imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/586_img_3669b.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/586_img_3669b.jpg[/imgz]
[imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/586_img_3670.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/586_img_3670.jpg[/imgz]
[imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/586_img_3671.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/586_img_3671.jpg[/imgz]
[imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/586_img_3674.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/586_img_3674.jpg[/imgz]
[imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/586_img_3672.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/586_img_3672.jpg[/imgz]

I have put one mithril mini to compare sizes.

About this auberge, I think it’s no longer on stock on Fernyl catalogue, but an alternative could be the echoppe medieavale (http://www.fenryll.com/product.php?id_product=219) and use of various accessories for auberge that are on fenryl catalogue (http://www.fenryll.com/category.php?id_category=46)
September 1, 2011 at 8:42 pm #20015
Thingol
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I want to own this tavern. Desperately…. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 1, 2011 at 8:55 pm #20018
Gildor
MMP Elder
well i admit I love this tavern too!! it would be perfect for the project!
September 2, 2011 at 7:54 am #20031
sevlag
Participant
Yes. I love it too. And on fenryl catalogue there are some various nice accessories for auberge…
September 2, 2011 at 10:01 am #20035
Turambar
Participant
Thank you very much Master imisel. I like it not that much, but we certainly should take this, no question, no doubt !!!!!
September 2, 2011 at 12:03 pm #20041
Gildor
MMP Elder
fact is, the same way we cannot reproduce mithril figurines “as is” we can’t do it for the fenryl furniture either… so even this set will have to be “converted”
September 2, 2011 at 12:15 pm #20044
hsf62
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What are you saying Master Gildor? Do you want to reproduce this tavern? I don’t think that’s a good idea and most certainly not worth putting the time and money into something that can be bought if ppl want to set up the “Pony”! It would not be the choise of mine, I rather built the Pony myself.
September 2, 2011 at 1:00 pm #20048
Thingol
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hsf62 wrote:

What are you saying Master Gildor? Do you want to reproduce this tavern? I don’t think that’s a good idea and most certainly not worth putting the time and money into something that can be bought if ppl want to set up the “Pony”! It would not be the choise of mine, I rather built the Pony myself.

I agree with Master Caster… I would like to have this one for my own mithril PP M range figures… we have agreed about all members who’ll be there now, and about conversions, but what about “missing” mithril on the list…. [mith]M122[/mith]

Can we use this furniture !?!?
September 2, 2011 at 2:01 pm #20052
hsf62
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I don’t think so Nino, at least not recasted.
I think we should put the whole project into some boundries.
Mithril figures converted only for the caracters. No additional figures in any way. That would be up to every individual to decide for themselfs if she /he wants to add more for her/his own set.
Furniture yes, but only for the diorama for Chris and these must be original Mithril provided by whoever can provide parts of it.
No furniture included in the “Pony set” for the members of MMP, only converted figures! It will be up to everyone to design her/his “Pony”themself and add furniture and figures as many as they like.
I also don’t really like the idea of a base because of the dimension it would have to be made to fit all the figures. Far to large I believe.
September 2, 2011 at 3:21 pm #20053
Thingol
Participant
:rolleyes:

hsf62 wrote:

I don’t think so Nino, at least not recasted.
I think we should put the whole project into some boundries.
Mithril figures converted only for the caracters. No additional figures in any way. That would be up to every individual to decide for themselfs if she /he wants to add more for her/his own set.
Furniture yes, but only for the diorama for Chris and these must be original Mithril provided by whoever can provide parts of it.
No furniture included in the “Pony set” for the members of MMP, only converted figures! It will be up to everyone to design her/his “Pony”themself and add furniture and figures as many as they like.
I also don’t really like the idea of a base because of the dimension it would have to be made to fit all the figures. Far to large I believe.

Bah….. !
September 2, 2011 at 3:45 pm #20055
Gildor
MMP Elder
I have to disagree, When I launched the concept and idea of the project, it was a diorama project, not only converted figures so that people do whatever they want with it…

the assembling, the positionning, the furniture and the base, with “decided-altogether” position of everybody would have been the same for everybody…. further furniture could be added individually but the “base set” would be a diorama in itself with all the material necessary to make it fully… like a big MV or MB

the fully tavern is too much, but a base, with SOME furniture and a base to fix all the “actors” in a given order, is essential to the project I think.

now about the Tavern accessory… this is the only M reference Chris did not sculpt at all… this may be copyright mithril, but it’s not made by Chris… but I think any kind of other furniture, even in resin, at low cost could be used for this but I would have liked it to be the same for everybody…
September 2, 2011 at 3:47 pm #20056
Gildor
MMP Elder
once again this is how I see it, but if people prefer Holger’s way, I can adapt but if it is meant to be a gift to Chris TOO in the end, I can’t imagine sending him just a set of characters, without bases, to build a diorama himself as he sees fit… the gift has to be complete…
September 2, 2011 at 4:22 pm #20059
Milo
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hsf62 wrote:

I don’t think so Nino, at least not recasted.
I think we should put the whole project into some boundries.

I totally agree

hsf62 wrote:

Mithril figures converted only for the caracters. No additional figures in any way. That would be up to every individual to decide for themselfs if she /he wants to add more for her/his own set.
Furniture yes, but only for the diorama for Chris and these must be original Mithril provided by whoever can provide parts of it.

I agree again, except the diorama for Chris should also contain PP series I bought
N for this project.

hsf62 wrote:

It will be up to everyone to design her/his “Pony”themself and add furniture and figures as many as they like.
I also don’t really like the idea of a base because of the dimension it would have to be made to fit all the figures. Far to large I believe.

Yes you are right if we talk about a diorama, then wrong if we end up with a vignette !

Imisel tavern is a good & complete solution for a diorama for Chris. Then I would prefer to make mine. And at least DDaines already has PP done !
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