MMP vigette project
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well, my idea was to have something like the unexpected party or the council of elrond, indeed, one can always organize the figurines the way he wants but all material is there….
Also my idea was to have ALL the skills of MMP members being put together for this project to share with their other fellowsI am sorry but I am , alas no diorama builder at all… and I won’t, even if I want, make any imaginative or good-looking vignette all by myself if given only figurines to do so…. on the other hand, there are very talented diorama builders, talented converters, talented painters
IF everybody is to paint his own “set” (which would be fair) and IF everybody has to assemble the set using his own means individually…. where is the “overall aspect” of the MMP capacities?
only in converting figurines?
I have to disagree, I had not planned this project to be a promotion of our “conversions” capacities alone…. no… I respect conversions, but if the project is about converting only, I disagree, the purpose is to put together conversion/diorama building/painting and our skills in logistics and communication allowing us all to achieve this project altogether as an ‘enterprise’ would, with method…
indeed at first the idea was to make only ONE set of this and to send it to Chris, but having this set replicated to all participants, though a very defendable point should NOT change the original concept of the project…
which is a “full vignette”
anyway, before talking -diplomatically- with Chris about certain aspects of this project I’d like to have a fixed idea on what the final production will be as it is not to be presented the same way…
I for once, if decided that it is converted figurines of us all only, will certainly retract , as I have no skill nor time nor motivation to build by myself a vignette
anyway I’ll respect the majority if it is decided that these are to be conversions alone, but I would not have said this project would certainly take two YEARS of study and work if it was for figurines alone
as for me , the conversions have to take into account the interaction between ALL figurines together…Yes and no Master Gildor.
For now we have 20 members + Chris = 21 sets. This alone would mean to produce 21×23 figures only = 483 figures.
23 figures, because the Ent stands on a and is holding a wargskin. No furniture or base included. Hmm… not bad for a start.
I think the tavern could be used for Chris and everyone could do his part in finishing of this set with painting, supplying furniture etc…. This gift would represent the effort of the MMP Members.
For ppl like you who would like to have a complete diorama but are “unable” to do it by themselfs, I’m sure there is a solution also. You for example are the one who gave us nutties a new home after MMP1 died. I personally think you earned yourself a gift like the Pony mor then Chris! Chris did never anything for me, but you did and still do everytime I come here! 😎 So, regarding a gift for Gildor, you have my full support!well my abilities are limited, except in the domain of painting, webhosting, and logistics … I agree,
as for Chris maybe he did nothing for you but he did for me so that’s why I subjectivly feel I owe him a gift somehow… I suppose you can understand… He made the “born of hope” for me without having me asking, he even found me rarities he gave me without making me pay… and what did I do for him? nothing… well, besides building this site and gather the community, which are both helpful things for him…
anyway, as I said, I agree if people want only figurines that’s perfect, but as you mention I certainly will need some help for my own diorama
there is also the alternative of deciding what furnitures or what base to use that can be found on the market (at a company or another) and those not versed in diorama can be directed by those who are expect in this who will suggest them to buy this or that for building their own set
still one aspect to keep in the whole project : havine figurines without base (as it plays a high role in having the figurines “un-genuine”) and also, before making any sort of conversion, having a “schema” of how all the figurines interact between each other so that the conversions are made accordingly to those interactions… (which implicitly means the figurines would be placed on a special order, at least in small groups (like the unexpected party)
I think the quiproquo comes from my quote “figurines without base”… by that i mean the little rectangular base each mithril figurine has… which are quite always cut when the time comes to build a realistic diorama… it’s “this” base I was referring to from the beginning
Well, moulding is something I wouldn’t mind learning.
But I can cast the things, not make the moulds just yet
I know what you where refering to re the base. The other question would be then, how large a base is needed to fit 23 figures + furniture on it? Don’t get far with a 100mm base I guess…
Now that’s a start Gavin. 😎 It’s not really that hard.
I think if we want to create a base for this “Party”, then we should create it out of interlocking pieces similar to a jigsaw puzzle. With the right design, you can make a extendable square base out of a max of 8 different pieces. 4 corner and 4 middle pieces. Maybe even less. I have to think about the design….:rolleyes:By the way Gildor, we all have “only” limited abilities and thats fine!
That’s why a group works best to supply all the abilities needed!hsf62 wrote:I know what you where refering to re the base. The other question would be then, how large a base is needed to fit 23 figures + furniture on it? Don’t get far with a 100mm base I guess…[imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/11_pony1s.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/11_pony1s.jpg[/imgz]
This is the PP dio I did a while back. The dimensions are approx 12″ x 8″ and it is made out of foam-core, embossed plastic sheet, Scenics are by Grendel.
As you can see there are about 24 figures on the base so it will give an idea about base size needed
, Actually to give it a crowded Saturday night feel, a few more figures could easily be added.I will probably update this as I now have some windows to add.
well our MMPP (many mithril… Prancing Pony) could be inspired by your own PP david, but it clearly shows that we can have a slightly smaller basis, the goal is to have some active population there and we already know all the actors that will be included
there is, according to me, some furniture aspects that cannot be overlookied, there should be some kind of bar/counter behind which nob, or barliman should attend to customers, some rag skin on the floor, at least one table, and a trapdoor leading to the cellar
why? well… because those “items” are as “regular” to our taproom as all the actors that will be in this diorama
the skin, the cellar, the scrumpy, and the counter. I can also imagine Nob without his broom , half drunk, grasping a pint in his uprised left hand, if you see what I mean ? from [mith]M387[/mith]
hsf62 wrote:Yes and no Master Gildor.
For now we have 20 members + Chris = 21 sets. This alone would mean to produce 21×23 figures only = 483 figures.
23 figures, because the Ent stands on a and is holding a wargskin. No furniture or base included. Hmm… not bad for a start.
I think the tavern could be used for Chris and everyone could do his part in finishing of this set with painting, supplying furniture etc…. This gift would represent the effort of the MMP Members.
For ppl like you who would like to have a complete diorama but are “unable” to do it by themselfs, I’m sure there is a solution also. You for example are the one who gave us nutties a new home after MMP1 died. I personally think you earned yourself a gift like the Pony mor then Chris! Chris did never anything for me, but you did and still do everytime I come here! 😎 So, regarding a gift for Gildor, you have my full support!About gifts… maybe it also good to give gift to the man who’ll made recast of all recasts in this “small” diorama….
483 figures is quite a large number !
Also my suggestion is that all of us should paint diorama for for itself. And we should specify this one like only one copy appointed the “original” and this one should to be painted of each a bit.
And this one we could give as a gift, to Gildor, or Chris or….. or Holger… maybe we should organize a voting to select who will of those three “guys”
received full painted diorama…. or all oh them This will have to be tightly managed process….. !
hsf62 wrote:Another question…. How many of you here can mould/cast figures?I do not know to do this….
ddaines wrote:This is the PP dio I did a while back. The dimensions are approx 12″ x 8″ and it is made out of foam-core, embossed plastic sheet, Scenics are by Grendel.As you can see there are about 24 figures on the base so it will give an idea about base size needed
, Actually to give it a crowded Saturday night feel, a few more figures could easily be added.I will probably update this as I now have some windows to add.
Could you show us more pictures of this great diorama David… in a slightly higher resolution… Thanks !
Thingol wrote:ddaines wrote:This is the PP dio I did a while back. The dimensions are approx 12″ x 8″ and it is made out of foam-core, embossed plastic sheet, Scenics are by Grendel.As you can see there are about 24 figures on the base so it will give an idea about base size needed
, Actually to give it a crowded Saturday night feel, a few more figures could easily be added.I will probably update this as I now have some windows to add.
Could you show us more pictures of this great diorama David… in a slightly higher resolution… Thanks !
I will take some more photos Master Thingol, I’m glad you like it, but it can be found on the main Mithril website under fans gallery [David Daines] about page 3 or there abouts if you want to look sooner rather than later
. I thought I had submitted it here but couldn’t find it 
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