MW346 D8a question

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  • #733
    Mornedhel
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    Hi

    Just my two cents on MW346 warband.

    The figure MW346 – Orc officer is annotated D8a but on the one I own, the number is C7.

    Lost Minis Wiki ref:
    http://www.miniatures-workshop.com/lostminiswiki/index.php?title=Image:Mithril-Mcu-MW346-D8a.jpg

    [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/485_mw.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/485_mw.jpg[/imgz]

    Mornedhel

    #25966
    Mornedhel
    Participant

    Hi

    Just my two cents on MW346 warband.

    The figure MW346 – Orc officer is annotated D8a but on the one I own, the number is C7.

    Lost Minis Wiki ref:
    http://www.miniatures-workshop.com/lostminiswiki/index.php?title=Image:Mithril-Mcu-MW346-D8a.jpg

    [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/485_mw.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/485_mw.jpg[/imgz]

    Mornedhel

    #25967
    Milo
    Participant

    There might be a mistake in MMP description and also on wiki gallery, or you have a variant…

    I will check what is engraved under my miniature’s base this evening.

    #25969
    Theobald
    Participant

    That’s strange indeed, Mornedhel. I think Milo referred to the figures I have and here the sub-reference of the officer reads “C. Tubb 95” after the copyright sign. I think all the other subreferences of those army figures read “mithril 94”. In your second pic the subreference reads “C7” or “CZ” instead of “D8A”. I cannot explain this. – Though the figure itself clearly is the officer of the command group. I bought that command set directly from Chris Tubb. – Sorry, but that’s all I can tell.

    #25970
    Milo
    Participant

    Could it be you have the master figure ?

    #25972
    Mornedhel
    Participant

    I just know it’s not a fake as I sent it with others to Chris 2 years ago for “Evaluation” when we discussed about copies of Dwar.

    #25973
    Theobald
    Participant

    I am sure it’s not a fake, Mornedhel. But I am also sure that my figure is not a fake either, as I pointed out before. – So still I cannot explain the difference in the sub-references. The only clue might be the date. All figures of that army read “mithril 94” after the copyright sign. Only this captain I have, and received from Chris directly, reads “C. Tubb 95”. See, that was a year later. But I don’t know why. – Today I learned about this difference for the first time and also was a bit surprised. Let’s wait what Milo finds out tonight. – If you, or anybody else, is interested, I could ask Chris if he can remember and explain.

    #25974
    Theobald
    Participant

    Sorry, it’s me again. – I just took some time to have a closer look at that army and my listings of the sub-references. Something is strange for me: all figures start with a capital C at the beginning … except this D8A, which also has a different signature and date of release. That typical old, somehow “grey-greenish” spray is the same with all figures.

    #25975
    Milo
    Participant

    Maybe it’s the one Master Ent owns that is a variant.
    C7 referencing makes sense also compared to other minis from this warband.

    #25977
    Theobald
    Participant

    Well, it can’t be a variant, as the figure itself seems to be exactly the same as far as I can judge from the picture above. I agree, Master Milo, that only that C-reference would make sense in that range. – So, I’ll try to find out more.

    #25978
    Gildor
    MMP Elder

    damnit I have TOTALLY omitted this reference in the gallery actually :( I will check my own version at home.

    it would be logical that it is C7 because … there are C6 subrefs, C8 subrefs … and no C7…

    and the whole Half-orc range is referenced “C” (as third warband) (gondor army and orcs of mordor are A and B) and Iron Hill dwarves did not reach the “release stage” level which should have made them engraved with a “D”…

    #25981
    Theobald
    Participant

    Right, Master Gildor, you’re absolutely right about the logic of those subreferences. I just contacted The Man about this minor matter. In case he somewhen has the time to deal with this matter we’ll know more. We’ll have to wait until then. Though it would be interesting to know about the subreference of the figure you own.
    … and don’t haste, as far as I know the new gallery is still under construction :)

    #25982
    Milo
    Participant

    Variant is the wrong word I agree Theobald.

    My assumption:
    Orc officers were casted using 2 different moulds.
    A mistake was done on 1 mould, maybe just because these being prototypes (maybe again wrong configuration Control Management ?)
    I remember there was confusion between MW346&MW347 in CT’s auctions. That may explain why some are marked with C and others with D ?

    As you say, wait and let’s check tonight….

    #25986
    regalrick
    Participant

    I purchased my half-orc officer from Chris and it is marked C7 mithril 94

    #25987
    Thingol
    Participant

    My is C7 and I bought it personally from Chris…. so for this on I’m 100% sure that this is original, !?!? and I have another one… where is written D8A from the ebay auction and I made from him conversion because of I’m not so sure that this is original… so the story goes on… as a road…

    Proof… is here….

    C7
    [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/547_mwc7.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/547_mwc7.jpg[/imgz]

    D8A
    [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/547_mwd8a.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/547_mwd8a.jpg[/imgz]

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