Mw347 Saruman’s Army 1993/94

MMP Mithril in Middle-Earth The Mathom House of Michel Delving Mw347 Saruman’s Army 1993/94

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  • #345
    Theobald
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      With this I try to show what that “lost army” was about.

      #4052
      Theobald
      Participant

        With this I try to show what that “lost army” was about.

        #4055
        Turambar
        Participant

          . . . seems to be a clown somewhere in your breakfast, this morning, Master Tree . . . ;)

          #4056
          Theobald
          Participant

            None … but hasty you are giving a comment before I started … oh, by the way, noon has passed a while ago now seriously again:

            #4057
            Theobald
            Participant

              The first figure of the “lost army” Mw347 (“Armies of Saruman”) appeared late in 2004 on Ebay. It was a single pikeman (as far as I can recall it was C6A).
              After quite a while the “Half-orc command” was offered (Oct.05). Then there was news about the number of castings, “… there were only about 30 test castings of each of the Half-orcs ever made … far fewer than the M16.”
              That “Half-orc command” was based on the “Saruman’s Army” article which appeared in Tengwar no.2
              The last set of the ‘Angrenost Guard’ went away early in 2006. Before in Febr. 2006 those four
              pikemen appeared as a set. In June 2006 a set of “Half-orcs Swordsmen and archers” appeared (4 figures).
              About one year later (March 07) there were those “Half-orcs of Saruman”(three spearmen and a swordsman).
              In the end it became clear and is confirmed that two figures of the army went lost.
              The Angrenost Guardsman and the C5C bowman.
              So, for those who are interested in this matter:

              #4058
              Theobald
              Participant

                Half-orc command:

                D8A officer

                [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/9_d8a_officer_v.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/9_d8a_officer_v.jpg[/imgz]

                [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/9_d8a_s.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/9_d8a_s.jpg[/imgz]

                C4A drummer

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                [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/9_c4a_drummer_h.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/9_c4a_drummer_h.jpg[/imgz]

                C2

                [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/9_c2_standard_v.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/9_c2_standard_v.jpg[/imgz]

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                #4059
                Theobald
                Participant

                  The Angrenost Guard:

                  CA1 Dunlending officer mounted

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                  [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/9_ca1_agm_h.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/9_ca1_agm_h.jpg[/imgz]

                  #4060
                  Theobald
                  Participant

                    The Angrenost Guard:

                    C1

                    [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/9_c1_agf_v.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/9_c1_agf_v.jpg[/imgz]

                    [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/9_c1_agf_h.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/9_c1_agf_h.jpg[/imgz]

                    #4061
                    Theobald
                    Participant

                      The spearmen:

                      C3A

                      [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/9_c3a_spear_v.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/9_c3a_spear_v.jpg[/imgz]

                      [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/9_c3a_spear_h.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/9_c3a_spear_h.jpg[/imgz]

                      C3B

                      [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/9_c3b_spear_v.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/9_c3b_spear_v.jpg[/imgz]

                      [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/9_c3b_spear_h.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/9_c3b_spear_h.jpg[/imgz]

                      C3C

                      [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/9_c3c_spear_v.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/9_c3c_spear_v.jpg[/imgz]

                      [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/9_c3c_spear_h.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/9_c3c_spear_h.jpg[/imgz]

                      C3D

                      [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/9_c3d_spear_h.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/9_c3d_spear_h.jpg[/imgz]

                      [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/9_c3d_spear_h.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/9_c3d_spear_h.jpg[/imgz]

                      #4062
                      Theobald
                      Participant

                        The swordsmen:

                        C8A

                        [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/9_c8a_sword_v.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/9_c8a_sword_v.jpg[/imgz]

                        [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/9_c8a_sword_h.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/9_c8a_sword_h.jpg[/imgz]

                        C8B

                        [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/9_c8b_sword_v.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/9_c8b_sword_v.jpg[/imgz]

                        [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/9_c8b_sword_h.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/9_c8b_sword_h.jpg[/imgz]

                        C8C

                        [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/9_c8c_sword_v.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/9_c8c_sword_v.jpg[/imgz]

                        [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/9_c8c_sword_h.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/9_c8c_sword_h.jpg[/imgz]

                        C8D

                        [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/9_c8d_sword_v.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/9_c8d_sword_v.jpg[/imgz]

                        [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/9_c8d_sword_h.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/9_c8d_sword_h.jpg[/imgz]

                        #4064
                        Theobald
                        Participant

                          So, that’s it … and that’s all there is.

                          I do hope that these pictures might help those who want to know about one of the “lost armies” ’93/94.

                          #4065
                          Theobald
                          Participant

                            There was not a clown in my breakfast, rita.de.
                            … not even a crown …. :)

                            #4070
                            Turambar
                            Participant

                              mmmmmh-not hasty, more wondering, why the pics suddenly has disappeared. Didn´t finished the downloads . . . :rolleyes:
                              But I can see clearly now: you have made photos in very high quality indeed. That is very nice. Waiting people will be requited ! :)
                              When I compare all your different groups of photos I can recognize a commonality.
                              But, Master Tree, can you say what happened with the C3D !?

                              #4072
                              Theobald
                              Participant

                                Sorry, I’ll correct that later. I think I got confused with all those pics.

                                #4073
                                erchamion
                                Participant

                                  Master Theobald, all yours figures are undercoating? :rolleyes:
                                  My collection isn´t complete, I am missing 3 of the 20 figures Mw347 :(, but all my figures are without undercoat.
                                  Is it possible that The Man had some series with undercoat and others not?

                                  #4074
                                  Gildor
                                  MMP Elder

                                    well all my mw347 are also undercoated erchamion… if that may help

                                    #4076
                                    hsf62
                                    Participant

                                      Hello master Erchamion,

                                      Did you buy the minis from the man, or where did you get them from?

                                      #4077
                                      erchamion
                                      Participant

                                        Directly from The Man……

                                        #4078
                                        presto247365
                                        Participant

                                          The ents recall of the sale dates agrees with my records nicely. Here’s an expansion of that information, if it is at all helpful.

                                          February 2004 E-bay sale of first Mw 347 half-orc, the C3A spearman
                                          October 2005 E-bay sale of three casting Half-orc command, D8A, C2, C4A
                                          Early 2006 E-bay sale of two Angrenost command figs, CA1 (mounted) C1 (foot)
                                          February 2006 E-bay sale of four pikemen, C6A, C6B, C6C, C6D
                                          June 2006 E-bay sale of two archers, C5B, C5D; and two swordsmen, C8B, C8C
                                          March 2007 Final e-bay sale of three spearmen, C3B, C3C, C3D; and one swordsman,
                                          C8D

                                          These three castings were either sold earlier as single figs on E-bay or given away by Chris as gifts; C3A Spearman, C5A archer (mohawk) and C8A swordsman. They are the hardest to find if you’re missing them. The two lost castings are xxx? Angrenost guardsman and the C5C archer, supposedly loading an arrow.

                                          So 22 figures in all, 20 known to exist and 17 of those sold in groups on E-bay between February 2004 and March 2007. All of mine are undercoated as well, btw ;)

                                          #4079
                                          Theobald
                                          Participant

                                            Well, Erchamion, as you can see all the figures I have wear that grey undercoat, though there has been a discussion about the shade of grey as it is a little bit different from the regular undercoat used by Mithril (but also this has changed with the relase of the last figures as there have been complaints about the quality of the Swan Knights undercoating).
                                            I received my miniatures from The Man directly and I really don’t know if there are sets without undercoating – though I cannot imagine. That’s strange.
                                            One thing’s for sure: the Mw346 Dwarves all have no coating at all. Chris announced that in his entry on Ebay when he offered them. He didn’t do that with the figures of the Mw347 as far as I can recall.
                                            If you want me to find out, Erchamion, I could try to find out about that.

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