Mw347 Saruman’s Army 1993/94

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January 12, 2009 at 3:23 pm #4080
Theobald
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Yes, Presto247365, you’re right, of course. I simply forgot to mention the fact that some of the figures were given away by Chris as a gift. Besides those three you mentioned also one pikeman-version was given away as a gift before the complete pikemen-set appeared on Ebay.

About the two lost figures I tried to find out everything I could. Chris confirmed that they definitely are lost as he tried to find them himself while that army was offered on Ebay. Without success. I also contacted Henk Scholtz about this matter. He was the only one who was able to provide a complete list of those figures on the old MMP page about one or two years before the first of those figures “saw the light” on Ebay. He then was just passing on information. But in his old listing those two figures were not mentioned with a subreference. They were just referred to as being lost. So that might have been in 2003 or even earlier.
January 12, 2009 at 9:45 pm #4094
erchamion
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Presto and Theobald, thank you very much for recreating the chronological history of the Mw347. I don´t know.
Indeed, I fear that the “gifts” are missing me …

It really is funny :rolleyes:. Nobody else has the Mw347 without undercoat? Let’s see if I have some time to “dust” my Mw347 and I will do a photo …..

Who knows? Maybe I have a rarity ….
January 12, 2009 at 10:23 pm #4095
Turambar
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Well, dearest mithril enthusiasts, once more it is very interesting being part of this community. But, for me as an owner of some Lost-Range Halforcs myself, there is the question of the right number, the right ID. Master Gildor put in his database for Saruman´s halforcs the ID: MW 346 ! Master Theobald informs everybody about the MW 347 . . .
Being confused in the meantime, I would like to ask for the right ID. Please give us a help.
By the way, Master Theobald: this is a fantastic post !
January 13, 2009 at 6:53 am #4098
Gildor
MMP Elder
some enlightment….
on ebay, when they first appeared and then always afterwards…. Chris Tubb mentionned the half orcs to be MW347, and the dwarves to be MW346… thus they were most commonly called this way around… but the half orcs were meant to be released prior to the dwarves. That’s why the half orcs subreferences begin with a C (while the gondor army and mordor orcs begin with A and and dwarves begin with nothing because they did not reach the stage of subreferencing.
On the back of the big blister coming along the MW336 and MW337 releases, the two MW346 and MW347 were announced as upcoming. And MW346 was half orcs, and MW347 were dwarfs.. this referencing was thus the one planned by Mithril.
January 13, 2009 at 12:48 pm #4099
Theobald
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I know about that background, but I just stuck to the way Chris Tubb announced and sold them. To me it does not really matter, but of course Gildor is always very exact with his database.
January 13, 2009 at 3:21 pm #4100
Turambar
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Ah ha, so thank you very much Gildor for this information.
So, finally I can say, that the correct ID for my halforks is the MW 346, as I can see in the database, is that correct ?
I need a: yes, that´s correct, Christoph !
January 13, 2009 at 5:39 pm #4104
Theobald
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Yes, that’s correct, rita.de. Gildor is correct about this matter.
January 13, 2009 at 10:21 pm #4109
Gildor
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yes christoph that is correct though you will never see half orcs as mw346 on ebay nor dwarves as mw347
January 13, 2009 at 10:36 pm #4110
Turambar
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Thank you, lads about your information. I try to sleep now . . . ( thinking of renaming my foto-titels or not . . . :rolleyes:
Good night !
January 16, 2009 at 9:46 pm #4137
erchamion
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Well, they aren´t good pictures (like all the pictures I do ) but I think it shows that they are without undercoat

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January 16, 2009 at 11:33 pm #4141
Turambar
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You are a very lucky man, erchamion. That what I see there makes me breathless ( Gildor, there is no smily for that . . . )
Well, the fotos are quiet good. I think, you have them all, is that right. And also very nice putted in that marvellous carrying case from mithril: praiseworthy !
But, you have to paint them amd put them into a diorama . . .
January 17, 2009 at 11:26 am #4142
Theobald
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A very nice collection and strangely without undercoating. No, rita.de, these are not all there are. Here one spearman, one swodsman and one archer is missing. The complete range constists of 20 figures.
And by the way, as a collector I wouldn’t paint any of those. But that depends on your personal attitude towards these figures, of course.
February 17, 2009 at 11:52 am #4373
Gildor
MMP Elder
All pictures so far copied in the Mithril Gallery “Uniques & Rarities” (missing the archers and pikemen)
February 17, 2009 at 4:05 pm #4379
Theobald
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Good grief! Did I really forget to provide the pics of the three archers and the pikemen? How could it happen? I’ve got them, of course. I’ll try to correct that until the next weekend. Sorry.
February 19, 2009 at 2:27 pm #4390
Theobald
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Hi Gildor, you can find the missing pics of the four pikemen and the three archers in my uploads here. So if you want to add them to complete the file in the gallery feel free to put them there.
February 19, 2009 at 3:15 pm #4391
Gildor
MMP Elder
ok I will do that
February 22, 2009 at 7:46 pm #4468
twrich
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So then, this confirms sad news for me, as I do not like to have any pieces missing from my collection. Were these early three, C3A, C5A, and C8A only given as gifts by Chris, or did some go on ebay by him or private sellers?
February 23, 2009 at 11:32 am #4470
Theobald
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As far as I can recall those three figures were not only given away as gifts. In February 2006 I bought three figures of the Mw347 series from Chris (50 GBP). I think those were the ones you mentioned, Tom. Anyway I think there are no figures left to be sold.
February 24, 2009 at 8:47 pm #4499
Theobald
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Well, as I had some time to re-read this thread …considering & contemplating …
you should take some time to re-dust your Mw347, Master Erchamion … a picture would be very much welcomed here … I also thought of providing a pic of the complete army somewhere around here (in the thread of Gildor’s gallery) … but what is it about the last smile in your last entry?
Anyway, I’ll keep on and I also do hope you also will.
February 24, 2009 at 9:55 pm #4501
erchamion
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Well, I also re-read the post. My English is not all good that it should. I have corrected the text of the smile (if that is what you referred ….)

As for the pictures I ask help from a friend who has a good camera with macro
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