mw347 subreferences

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  • #224
    Gildor
    MMP Elder

    Does any of you still have the list of all the MW347 subreferences? I can’t manage to find the list and I don’t have mines at hand…

    Not to mention we do not have the subreference number of the missing angrenost guard.

    If any of you has it, please could you post it here?

    #1456
    Gildor
    MMP Elder

    Does any of you still have the list of all the MW347 subreferences? I can’t manage to find the list and I don’t have mines at hand…

    Not to mention we do not have the subreference number of the missing angrenost guard.

    If any of you has it, please could you post it here?

    #1461
    Theobald
    Participant

    No problem at all:

    “Angrenost Guard”
    CA1 Dunlending officer mounted
    C1 Dunlending officer
    — Angrenost guardsman (lost)

    “half-orc command”:
    D8A officer
    C2 standard bearer
    C4A drummer

    “pikemen”: C6A, C6B, C6C, C6D

    “bowmen”: C5A, C5B, C5D (obviously C5C is lost)

    “swordmen”: C8A, C8B, C8C, C8D

    “spearmen”: C3A, C3B, C3C, C3D

    The sub-reference of the mounted Dunlending officer (CA1) reads: mithril ’74

    That’s all there is.

    #1463
    Gildor
    MMP Elder

    Perfect! exactly what I needed. Thanks a lot Theobald!

    (NB : indeed the C5C is permanently lost as well as the angrenost guardsman)

    The fact they are lost though, tends to make us believe that unlike the others… those two may not have been put into “sample casting”, there were some 20 or 30 of each other figurines, I find it difficult to believe that a whole lot of 20 or 30 of a given figurine would be lost. I thus assume that it was the very unique masters of these figurines that were lost. Since it was only prototyping, maybe Mithril did not check if they were missing at the time of the sample casting because they did not focus a lot on that… which would end up meaning that, as a “small unreleased quantity” warband as a whole, those two never existed…. they only did as master prototypes.

    #1500
    Gildor
    MMP Elder

    oh and by the way… though it may not be the right thread but anyway…
    Could you do the same thing for the released MW336 and MW337? all the “existing” subreferences? (which means all orcs too, even if the released box did not have them all and needed some addition from Time Machines)

    #1502
    Theobald
    Participant

    yes, I can do that … give me some time, please I did not learn that by heart ;)

    #1503
    Theobald
    Participant

    Sorry, but don’t like to type these list again but I found two files I could paste in … though the layout may be a bit too weird … anyway, I’ll try
    you mean these two armies?
    MW 336 Gondor army [ 29 ]

    1 Mounted captain
    2 Sergeants
    1 Trumpeter
    1 Standard bearer
    10 Heavy infantry / 3 types
    8 Light infantry / 4 types
    6 Archers

    MW 337 Orcs of Mordor [ 30 ]

    1 Standard bearer
    1 Orc chieftain
    1 Drummer
    1 Hornist
    6 Archer / 4 types
    20 various spearmen, axemen, swordsmen / 8 types

    #1504
    Theobald
    Participant

    Sorry, but I didn’t keep record of the sub-references -but I can provide them, of course. I’ll just have to look at each figure … so it cannot be done today. On the other hand it is a bit difficult, because when those two armies were released the sets of figures were not exactly the same with each set. There were slight differences, especially with the orcs … but I can tell you, Gildor that by now I have got them all … I’m sure. I compared my minis with those offered by Time Machine. As for that Gondorian officer, mounted (horse’s right foot up and straight) I have the Master.
    I hope I can send you the complete listings within the next week ….

    #1507
    Gildor
    MMP Elder

    master ent :) you say I am hasty ;) but I did not tell you I needed this information at once ;) please it’s my turn to tell you “take your time” :)

    #1525
    presto247365
    Participant

    I’ll just hijack this thread 😎

    MW 336 Gondor army [ 29 ] Mithirl code Time Machine code

    1 Mounted captain (2 horse variations) b1 CMD
    2 Sergeants b6 CMD
    1 Trumpeter b2 CMD
    1 Standard bearer b3 CMD
    10 Heavy infantry / 3 types
    ornate shoulder b4a SEN-8
    plain shoulder b4b SEN-7
    chain shoulder b4c SEN-9
    8 Light infantry / 4 types
    throwing, ornate shoulder b5a SEN-4
    throwing, studded tunic b5b SEN-3
    thrusting b5c SEN-5
    throwing javelin b5d SEN-2
    6 Archers b7 SEN-6

    I already had this info typed up, so it would be crappy of me not to share! I included the Time Machine codes to make it very easy for anyone needing some figs to know what to order.
    Orcs to follow!

    #1526
    presto247365
    Participant

    The orcs!

    Number T.M. Code Aspect
    a1 CMD Orc Warlord
    a2 CMD Orc Standard Bearer
    a3 CMD Orc Drummer
    a4 CMD Orc Trumpeter
    a5a ORC-6 Adv. sword over head
    a5b ORC-3 Running, spear, helmet
    a5c ORC-7 Running, sword at waist
    a5d ORC-2 Running, spear, bare-head
    a5d(v) ORC-4 Throwing spear
    a6a ORC-8 Archer, pointed cap
    a6b ORC-9 Archer, hood
    a6c ORC-11 Archer, helmet
    a6d ORC-10 Archer, bare-head
    a7a ORC-15 running, sword, two-horn helmet
    a7b ORC-12 Adv. axe at waist
    a7c ORC-13 Adv. Sword, helmet
    a7d ORC-14 Adv. Bare-head, sword
    a8a ORC-5 Adv. axe over head
    a8b ORC-18 Adv. scimitar,three-horned helmet
    a8c ORC-17 Attacking, sword overhead,helm
    a8d ORC-16 Attacking, sword overhead,bare-head

    The oddball in the bunch is the a5d figures. I can’t remember for sure, but I think the a5d throwing the spear I marked with a (v) for variant. I think it shares the same number with the a5d running with the spear. I didn’t have any spear throwing a5d(v) in my original warband and got my copies from TIme Machine.

    #1529
    Gildor
    MMP Elder

    I assume thenthat the Half-orcs which are Cxx are thus subreferenced because there was already Axx and Bxx
    (though B precedes A in matter of releases…

    Logically, the iron hill dwarves would have been Dxx (cool to have a D for Dwarves) but they may have not reached this level of prototyping and that may mean there are less, and quite less organised iron hill dwarves than there were half orcs…

    #1534
    presto247365
    Participant

    My dwarf command is simply lettered A, B and C. And very faintly at that!

    #1535
    Gildor
    MMP Elder

    yeah I know that presto, mine too.. but I was meaning that if it had gone further onto production, surely they would have had DXX subreferences. They just were too early in the stage of prototyping.

    #1979
    hsf62
    Participant

    Some pics for the subreferences.
    [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/6_mw347_c6a.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/6_mw347_c6a.jpg[/imgz][imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/6_mw347_c6d.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/6_mw347_c6d.jpg[/imgz][imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/6_mw347_c6c.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/6_mw347_c6c.jpg[/imgz][imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/6_mw347_c6b.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/6_mw347_c6b.jpg[/imgz]
    [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/6_mw347c3b.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/6_mw347c3b.jpg[/imgz][imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/6_mw347_c3c.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/6_mw347_c3c.jpg[/imgz][imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/6_mw347_c3d.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/6_mw347_c3d.jpg[/imgz]
    [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/6_mw347_c8d.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/6_mw347_c8d.jpg[/imgz][imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/6_mw347_c8b.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/6_mw347_c8b.jpg[/imgz][imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/6_mw347_c8c.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/6_mw347_c8c.jpg[/imgz]

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