some juicy ebay-auctions

MMP Mithril in Middle-Earth The Marketplace of Tharbad some juicy ebay-auctions

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  • #3006
    Wendy
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      D’oh, nevermind. I though the light color was just a weird primer, but I think she is recasting in resin and selling (or buying from a recaster). 😡 I wonder if Mithril cares?

      I do see a difference between what Holger does and making profit on ebay by casting up someone else’s work that still may be purchased. Besides, it wouldn’t be that hard to just sculpt their own scenery and cast it and be nice and moral about it. :/

      #3011
      hsf62
      Participant

        Well, for some people everything is to hard. At least this seller doesn’t sell the parts as Mithril. I have bought minis on ebay advertised as Mithril, but they where recast figs.
        I would think Mithril cares, but they don’t have the resources to track down recasts. Just to much effort.
        Maybe I should put a M16 standard bearer on ebay..lol Would be interesting how much one brings.

        #3015
        Gildor
        MMP Elder

          I’d appreciate not holger though ;) but indeed you can do what you want :) Mithril is aware of this place and we tend to be in very good terms with them. That would not bring any good to do that in their back as we are not anonymous to them. Besides wasn’t it you who asked for removal of pics of the Half-orcs converted full army? :)

          #3017
          hsf62
          Participant

            This was a joke!!! I would not sell my converted Mithrils on ebay, nor the copies I made to produce conversoins. I don’t need to prove to myself that I could sell a copie on ebay without the buyer realising it is a copy. I rather put this effort into a new conversion, or building some nice furniture, because I am a Master in this field too! Mastercarpenter and cabinetmaker!

            #3018
            hsf62
            Participant

              Sorry Gildor, you made me angry, but you really don’t know me.

              #3020
              Theobald
              Participant

                Rhuuoommm … huoomm… yes ….huom … as for me I just can tell that neither anger nor knowledge will keep us apart from contemplating a somewhat more serious matter … huoom.

                #3021
                hsf62
                Participant

                  My friend the Wisest of Ents is right and I always appreciate his wisdom!:)

                  #3022
                  Wendy
                  Participant

                    I asked the seller of the Orthanc scenery and she said it might be resin or plastic, leading me to believe she didn’t cast them. (One would hope one would know what kind of material one is using when casting, eh, Holger? :D) So someone out there is casting Mithril parts…for profit (but not Holger :)).

                    Hmm, she is also selling the throne and dais from M195 with the picture being metal and the text saying it’s resin, so I’m guessing the caster isn’t far away.

                    I might forward it to Michael. Mithril can at least give warning and file a complaint with ebay.

                    #3027
                    Gildor
                    MMP Elder

                      I’m sorry I angered you Holger , actually it was a misunderstanding from me, I did not get it was a joke :/
                      As wisdom speaks in Theobald words though, that is a pity to have people doing such things on ebay. well at least they do not sell strict copies nor use the name Mithril :/

                      Sorry again Holger :(

                      #3033
                      hsf62
                      Participant

                        It’s all good Master Gildor. Don’t worry about it. I’m getting hot fast, but I cool down even faster! ;)
                        I see it the same way you do. That’s why I brought up the Karagat listing. This seller has now listed Karagat the fourth time. Very unlikely for a fig like Karagat to be available 4 times from the same seller, especially if it is the only Mithril he is selling. The same with minis from Ral Partha and other producers. What a coincidence????
                        Well, if there is something I don’t believe in, then it is coincidence!

                        #3035
                        Gildor
                        MMP Elder

                          this should be reported to Mithril…

                          #3037
                          Theobald
                          Participant

                            Rhuooommm …. some years ago I gave away some three ‘Razaracs’ …. huoommm and I still cannot cast a single piece of metal …. rhuoommmhom … so strange things might happen ….
                            but with this I do agree that it should be reported, Master Gildor. …. rhuoommm …. are you sure that Mithril is the one to be addressed …. ?

                            #3040
                            erchamion
                            Participant

                              Sometimes I’ll be impressed by some “deals” for Ebay. The sad thing is that there are certainly some who bite …..:(

                              Item: 140262610520

                              The same seller has more “deals” from “discontinued “….

                              #3042
                              hsf62
                              Participant

                                If you don’t try you never find out!! Good luck to him to sell this set for “only” EU 300.00!LOL

                                I think Mithril is the one to be addressed. Then it’s up to them to report to Ebay or take other action….

                                #3045
                                Kenakko
                                Participant

                                  Unfortunately there are some who try to make unreasonalbe profit from the collectabilty of Mithril. The fellow above is dreaming, however. I have seen recasts of both GW and Mithril on eBay before. Honestly, I don’t think Mithril would care nor have the resources to pursue legal action internationally. Besides, I think there is a difference in recasting for pure profit and recasting for personal use and I think most manufacturers would agree. Selling a recast as an original is another matter entirely and is not new or limited to our little hobby. Buyer beware always applies and now more than ever with huge black markets for everything!

                                  #3047
                                  Axe99
                                  Participant

                                    Aye, there’s no risk of Holger starting an ebay store of ‘after market’ Mithrils! Not unless he’s been gazing into a palantir with the Dark Lord at the other end and lost control of his senses ;). I don’t think Gildor intended to offend – more just being a bit cautious.

                                    For my two cents, I think converting mithrils and making copies of the conversions is very different to recasting production models and selling them on ebay – I think the first is artistic creation and very unlikely to hurt Mithril (unless they were then sold, but this isn’t a worry here), whereas the second is blatant infringement of intellectual property. It’d be a bit like the difference between someone re-editing a movie for their personal use (and maybe making copies of the re-edited movie for a couple of mates), and copying the movie straight and selling it cheap for profit. That said, I don’t know what the law says about this. Definitely an interesting issue, and one that is ethically complicated.

                                    #3048
                                    Wendy
                                    Participant

                                      I did email Michael about the scenery auction I posted and he answered saying that he emailed them asking for proof of permission from Mithril to reproduce their works and that he’d talk it over with Chris and Lars (and that Lars is on vacation this week).

                                      I’d say, if anyone runs across something that really seems like a recast just forward the info to Michael. All we can really do is not buy the item in question and let Mithril know about it.

                                      Perhaps at some point we can compile a list of recasters (or at least suspected of recasting) on ebay so people can be warned? It won’t be a tremendously long list, but worthwhile nonetheless, as Mithrils are collectables and no one wants to buy recasts.

                                      #3052
                                      Theobald
                                      Participant

                                        That could turn out to be quite difficult, Wendy. Though I also would like to have such information for warning us collectors beforehand. A caster must not necessarily be a seller.

                                        I’m very much angry about these matters I here have heard of ….

                                        #3054
                                        Wendy
                                        Participant

                                          Yes, Theo. Good point. I should say “those strongly suspected of selling recasted figures” since it is indeed difficult to track down casters themselves.

                                          #3055
                                          Theobald
                                          Participant

                                            We have to keep an eye on that matter … seriously.

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