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August 5, 2010 at 9:09 am #11195
Milo
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Here, very old riders:
http://shop.ebay.fr/seamus7077/m.html?_nkw=mithril&_sacat=0&defsort=12&_odkw=&_osacat=0&bkBtn=&_trksid=p3911.m270.l1313
August 21, 2010 at 8:50 am #11487
Thingol
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140443185122&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

this is really juicy auction.. I do not how manny of you guys have this, but I will try to bid… I hope the price wouldn’t be astronomic…. but I doubt on it…..
August 21, 2010 at 10:01 am #11489
Turambar
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. . . . . . . 😮 . . . . .
HO HO – the whole “Lost Range” ! That is really extraordinary . . . . .
August 21, 2010 at 11:39 am #11490
Barliman
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No, it’s not the whole range. Even The Man doesn’t seem to have all the figures now – there should be another swordsman, another archer, and another spearman, unless I’m very much mistaken. It’s a nice little lot, though, and worth bidding on if you don’t have these particular figures.
August 21, 2010 at 11:43 am #11491
Gildor
MMP Elder
yes there are missing figurines in this… I confirm what Barliman says, missing an archer and swordsman at least

(you can check in the gallery section to be sure)
August 21, 2010 at 12:21 pm #11492
Theobald
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Right you are about the 3 missing figures, Master Barliman. As I can recall the old concept of the size of that ‘lost army’ was to have:
3 Angrenost
3 command
4 pikemen
4 spearmen
4 bowmen
4 swordmen
that makes 22 figures
But we all know for a while that definitely one bowman-version and the Angrenost guardsman are lost. So that’s 20 left. 17 offered by The Man on Abay leaves room for those 3 figures you mentioned, Master Barliman. At least there are 20 figures in my collection.

Anyway … that set is worth bidding for it. But as you can imagine, I won’t.
August 21, 2010 at 5:16 pm #11497
presto247365
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comparing the gallery photos with the auction photos, this set seems to be missing the spearman with a hood, the archer with the mohawk, and one swordsman i can’t identify, in addition to the lost guardsman and archer which nobody has. Quite a trove really, and I tremble to think of the final cost. I hope our friend “D” doesn’t shoot the moon with his bids to secure this lot. I most certainly won’t be bidding, but will observe with interest.
August 21, 2010 at 6:10 pm #11498
Gavin
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I’d almost love to have the whole set entirely, just to mate it with the M-seres and LR Half Orcs and thus have this absolutely beautiful, (almost) unique army of Isengard.

Alas, no way I can afford it
August 21, 2010 at 7:55 pm #11501
Theobald
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I will not reveil the amount of coiny things I had to pay to buy that Mw347. The first sets The Man provided on Ebay were not listed as a “buy it now”. So it all was about auctions. Nevertheless I’m far from complaining about this. So let’s see …
As for you, Gavin, I let our dear Elf decide to give away my pics concerning that matter, sorry when some of them are of poor quality.
I still do remember the one who first gave away details and numbers of that “lost army”. Those were in those days when Mithrandir placed “the old” MMP on the net. – Alas, a long time ago that is, isn’t it?
Anyway, wishing all of you bidders all the best, as the set is more than rare, but you know that.
August 21, 2010 at 9:17 pm #11503
Gildor
MMP Elder
mmhhh i thought I had finally put all the half-orcs pictures in the gallery, but I will check again if need be, I still have your CDs master Ent

could you check if there is something missing in the gallery dedicated to them? (i did not put all of them but at least one or two of each distinguished prototype)
August 21, 2010 at 10:46 pm #11504
Theobald
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Well, about half a year ago you asked me to take a pic of the complte army. I think I did provide that. I’m afraid that the old CD you referred to (ah, the one that was supposed to having been lost?) Must have been some years ago since then. – Okidoki, Gildor, I’ll try to sort that out.
August 21, 2010 at 11:19 pm #11505
Theobald
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I just checked that, Master Gildor. You even provided a pic of the complete set on your gallery. Just have a look at page 4 there – last pic you put in there. Though I have to admit that the pic was poorly taken, as the drummer of the ‘command’ group cannot clearly be distinguished.
I guess that you just were mistaken having a look at the old pic of the army you chose to start that thread with. – Just have a look at the last one … 20 there are … I’m also sure that I passed some detailed pics of each and every figure of that “Saruman’s Army”, as The Man once called it.
never mind, it’s just to let you know that you already provided all pics I did send about that army … sorry that it took so long to pass on after your query … but, you know, I cannot haste each and everything … though I try to do so ….
August 22, 2010 at 5:39 am #11507
twrich
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Master Ent, You are almost hasty, but not quite! And please stay as you are.
August 22, 2010 at 9:49 am #11509
Theobald
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Oh, I just heard that the word “complete” in the item description of that ‘lost army’ really means complete … there are 20 figures in the set offered on Ebay … The Man simply forgot to add pics of three miniatures … but that will be corrected, I think …
but anyway, who owns so many coiny things to buy that 20-piece-jewel?
August 22, 2010 at 11:10 am #11510
presto247365
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It may be a new E-bay record for mithrils, especially if it is all 20.
August 22, 2010 at 2:32 pm #11514
Theobald
Participant
The set really does consist of 20 figures, as I tried to point out this morning. I’m sure that those doubts about the offer will have been corrected with additional information soon.
Alas .. as for the price … that’s hard to guess … it might not top the price for a single figure (which was … huom … I forgot and I wasn’t referring to some M16 ladies – but Gildor knows about this.)
… some facts about this ‘lost army’ still are strange to me … as I still wonder why there’s a comlete set being offered by Master Tubb. All there is is confusion, at least for me.
Just giving an examle (or two):

“No, I can tell you that there were only about 30 test castings of each of the Half-orcs ever made; and all of these are now sold. These are the original test castings (they were never put into production) – Far fewer than the M16.”
[received on 26.10.2005]
that was about the “LOTR Mithril Mw347 Half-orc command group VERY LAST SET” as it then was announced on Ebay by Chris. The conclusion I can draw out of that simply is the fact that the word “about” was wisely chosen. But why not?

Ah, in between I have to state that it’s not my intention to cause any harm with this entry!

So, Master Presto247365, I won’t dare to guess. — While I was re-reading many of those old receipts for miniatures I bought from Phaeton-design … there was a shiver at my spine … but why not?
About prices you can have a look at Master Gildor’s database or ask our ‘value-tracker’, Master Zoetrop here … all you’ll find is: ???
August 22, 2010 at 2:49 pm #11516
Gildor
MMP Elder
I may have theories or slight answers to you master Ent,

1) the fact that this set is sold as a full set on ebay “at last” will provide information for the database , so that we can be able to determine an “average” price for THE MW347 (unreleased) reference… so far only prices for separate figurines did exist and the whole set could not be priced… so this is indeed something exclusive (even if the persons who will be responsible for this price entry may have a very badly hurt coin purse in the end…)
2) this leads me to the fact that such “price entry” have appeared in the past to be ridiculously and upsettingly high… as master Ent says I know well about this when it comes to the [mith]Chr1988[/mith]… I won’t repeat the story about this , almost everybody knows already by now… and I am one of the two persons responsible for this price… I feel no pride in it I assure you…
3)the fact that these prototypes were never released and remained prototypes on Chris workbench makes them outside of Mithril district and since they may have been approved in the past by Tolkien Enterprise they can bear their “reference names without copyright issues” I suppose. The fact that only 30 castings were made does not mean the mould has been broken, or has it? and we all know the Man has the capacity to make “small number castings” of his own.. but that would go against his own principles. I’d prefer to say that when he says “there is ABOUT 30 castings of each” he did not have the precise number at hand and well I know from safe sources that in the past, the Man has miraculously found figurines he still had in his possession while he himself thought he had sold the last…
I speak of personal experience as it is this way I manage to get my hands on the full MW347 range as well as the [mith]Chr1990[/mith] outside of ebay sales… (and people may remember that the 54mm Eowyn only appeared once or maybe twice, long years ago… on ebay…)

to conclude, I don’t think even the whole MW347 can beat the Chr1988 price… the mithril market and current crisis makes it quite impossible I think… but who knows…
August 22, 2010 at 3:14 pm #11518
Theobald
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Right, I do agree with all you pointed out.
I won’t bid on that lost army, of course.
The 54mm Eowyn … alas … then, long time ago, as you said … I simply missed to get her because in those days we had no lap-tops to enable us to get access to current internet …

Hmm … thoughts … I guess I read something in between the lines here and then. Things my ideas are about for a while. But there’s no haste.
August 22, 2010 at 7:56 pm #11530
Thingol
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😮 difficult conversation again…. those MW347 set is totally controversial…. and finally I’m also interested for a final price…. specially if I decide to put one offer on this auction…. but there are lot’s of minutes till the end of this week saga….
August 22, 2010 at 9:52 pm #11531
Theobald
Participant
difficulties might concern guessing about the price for the complete set … so I won’t do that … and nobody else can … but as our Elf said (quote);
“The Mithril market and current crises makes it quite impossible”
to exceed the price once being payed for the CHR1988 … so it’ll be lower – (though I’d rather wish that The Man having sculpted them jewels might get some money out of this.)
I do feel so relaxed having all of them … though weird prices there were in the last decade …
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