special figure from 2019

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October 25, 2020 at 3:23 pm #990
Gildor
MMP Elder
Back in 2019, I got lucky to get a prototype version from Chris and I think I forgot to mention it around. This is suppsed – unofficially – to be “Tuor reaching the sea for the first time”. I don’t know if others among you receive it but I think some did. I plan to add it in the database (if possible…) under the ref “32gift3” and the name “Reaching the sea” Here are some pics.

[imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/2_tuor.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/2_tuor.jpg[/imgz]

[imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/2_tuor1.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/2_tuor1.jpg[/imgz]

[imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/2_tuor2.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/2_tuor2.jpg[/imgz]

strangely it looks like an “early work” Chris was doing back in 2010 as a version of Cuchulain in a series of Irish Heroes for Phaeton range that never came to fruition.
I think Barliman has seen this pics long ago and I don’t suppose there is secrecy around it anymore ?

[imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/2_cu2.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/2_cu2.jpg[/imgz]

I suppose you can agree they really look like the same but Tuor is a remake of Cuchulain.
October 25, 2020 at 3:23 pm #39005
Gildor
MMP Elder
Back in 2019, I got lucky to get a prototype version from Chris and I think I forgot to mention it around. This is suppsed – unofficially – to be “Tuor reaching the sea for the first time”. I don’t know if others among you receive it but I think some did. I plan to add it in the database (if possible…) under the ref “32gift3” and the name “Reaching the sea” Here are some pics.

[imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/2_tuor.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/2_tuor.jpg[/imgz]

[imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/2_tuor1.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/2_tuor1.jpg[/imgz]

[imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/2_tuor2.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/2_tuor2.jpg[/imgz]

strangely it looks like an “early work” Chris was doing back in 2010 as a version of Cuchulain in a series of Irish Heroes for Phaeton range that never came to fruition.
I think Barliman has seen this pics long ago and I don’t suppose there is secrecy around it anymore ?

[imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/2_cu2.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/2_cu2.jpg[/imgz]

I suppose you can agree they really look like the same but Tuor is a remake of Cuchulain.
October 25, 2020 at 10:16 pm #39009
Mornedhel
Participant
I am missing this one
October 26, 2020 at 7:43 am #39010
Milo
Participant
I had never seen this one before. Great Add-on to your unfindables set !
October 26, 2020 at 9:17 am #39018
Gildor
MMP Elder
Well I had confirmation, this Tuor is based on the Cuchulain pose but they are different, and the “irish heroes” project is still on hold (for 10 years…) but not abandonned, there are others like Cochobor.

also I got some info on the MZ621 and old M546-550 gaps but I fear we might not see those gaps filled any time soon. (MZ621 was supposed to be a “not-winning” suggestion chosen by Chris (he does not remember which one), and the M546-550 originally meant for Isengard Half-orc at Helm’s Deep crew was abandonned (because Lars only wanted 5 figurines not 10…) Chris had prepared a series of Vignettes based around the Hobbit to fill those 5 gaps, but the project was never accepted by Lars Edman so it was not done… even if some 3D concept was quite advanced.

There is also another prototype of a Witch King running which was an early creation of the MS496 that was abandonned. I will try to take a pic of it, but here again I think others have received it
October 26, 2020 at 5:33 pm #39021
Gildor
MMP Elder
Here are the pics of the alternative witch king, some of you have it ?

[imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/2_witchking496b_1.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/2_witchking496b_1.jpg[/imgz]

[imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/2_witchking496b_2.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/2_witchking496b_2.jpg[/imgz]

it’s quite rare that the figurine rectangular base is set in this orientation. not fitting at all for a blister.
October 26, 2020 at 6:33 pm #39022
Thingol
Participant
Nice news….
October 26, 2020 at 6:54 pm #39029
Thingol
Participant
… great topic for great news… did anybody seen this picture

[imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/547_fallen_balrog_pd.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/547_fallen_balrog_pd.jpg[/imgz]
October 26, 2020 at 7:57 pm #39032
Fabrice JACOB
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C’est la cour des miracles ici où vous êtes tombés sur la hotte du Père Noël ? 😆
Chouettes pièces, ma préférence pour la version du wicht king

Is it the court of miracles here or you stumbled upon Santa’s hood ? 😆
Nice pieces, my preference for the wicht king version
October 26, 2020 at 9:05 pm #39034
Gildor
MMP Elder
the “sleeping balrog” found by dwarves is an early work of [mith]MS564[/mith] that was abandonned, and then the model was reworked and improved to add a ground and dwarves. this “project” is one of the unreleased Phaeton Design miniatures for the “forthcoming” Necromancer series. But as far as I know this pic remains a project it was never casted (yet?)

there are others depicting a hooded mage and a famished dwarf (Supposedtly Thrain meeting Gandalf in Dol Guldur jails and giving him the “secret key to Erebor backdoor”) and another guardsman from the Necromancer… all of those being “unofficial” of course
there is also a picture of famous irish king of Eire, Conchobor. and a vignette with the Prancing poney sign and a bunch of riders being greated by a hobbit (which was meant to be one of the M545-550 gaps….

it could be funny to have someone “officially” submitting those ideas and make them win in order to be released on Gold Fellowship, as the “3D sculpting” is already made…
October 27, 2020 at 8:11 am #39035
Milo
Participant
My goodness, I love this vignette. I want one !!!!!

And about withc king, Never saw it neither….Do you feel Chris might have any spare left of it and also “Reaching the sea”?
October 27, 2020 at 8:38 am #39036
Milo
Participant
Thingol wrote:

… great topic for great news… did anybody seen this picture

[imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/547_fallen_balrog_pd.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/547_fallen_balrog_pd.jpg[/imgz]

“The awakening of Durin’s bane”
October 27, 2020 at 8:47 am #39037
Thingol
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Milo wrote:

Thingol wrote:

… great topic for great news… did anybody seen this picture

[imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/547_fallen_balrog_pd.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/547_fallen_balrog_pd.jpg[/imgz]

“The awakening of Durin’s bane”
October 27, 2020 at 9:07 am #39038
Gildor
MMP Elder
there are others that would be really a great addition to the range, but they were never produced because Lars did not find “enthusiast” to release them… (one of them being Galdalf meeting Bilbo at Bag End’s door (with the hobbit round door, and pines around)

but I don’t know if I can provide them here and I think Chris may have sent you pics in private already (at least some of you?)
October 27, 2020 at 9:31 am #39039
Milo
Participant
Many of us are not in touch with master CT as few are. So the more you show, the bigger we get exited ! :lol::cool:
October 27, 2020 at 9:58 am #39040
Gildor
MMP Elder
but I can’t know if there is some “privacy” issue about the pictures sent to me by Chris. Chris told me from time to time that he sent pics to others than me though I don’t know who.
I will ask him if I can share them

I am trying to be as transparent as I can towards the MMP community, but I can’t go against Chris will if there is any

it’s always a bit strange, sometimes Chris does not write nor reply for years and then several emails in a couple of days…
October 27, 2020 at 10:12 pm #39043
Maenas
Participant
oh! Super interesting! Did not knew anything about these projects
October 27, 2020 at 10:24 pm #39044
ddaines
Participant
Gildor Inglorion wrote:

the “sleeping balrog” found by dwarves is an early work of [mith]MS564[/mith] that was abandonned, and then the model was reworked and improved to add a ground and dwarves. this “project” is one of the unreleased Phaeton Design miniatures for the “forthcoming” Necromancer series. But as far as I know this pic remains a project it was never casted (yet?)

there are others depicting a hooded mage and a famished dwarf (Supposedtly Thrain meeting Gandalf in Dol Guldur jails and giving him the “secret key to Erebor backdoor”) and another guardsman from the Necromancer… all of those being “unofficial” of course
there is also a picture of famous irish king of Eire, Conchobor. and a vignette with the Prancing poney sign and a bunch of riders being greated by a hobbit (which was meant to be one of the M545-550 gaps….

it could be funny to have someone “officially” submitting those ideas and make them win in order to be released on Gold Fellowship, as the “3D sculpting” is already made…

My suggestions of the fallen Balrog was based upon use of something that I was aware Chris had looked at (for Phaeton), but I had never seen. Looking at the image I am surprised that he considered the suggestion to be too large considering it had been accepted in the past, AND, I had emphasised that it would be the size of the Entombed Balrog which I personally think to be much closer to a Balrog’s actual size, rather than the boxed set version. Great to finally see what was once a possible – such a shame Chris decided not to pursue the Phaeton range.
October 28, 2020 at 8:26 am #39048
Gildor
MMP Elder
the paheton range is not abandonned but put on hold, for several matters. Chris does not want to abandon any of those projects they exist, but well, sometimes life has other priorities and besides, it’s always a fair question of sales versus costs…
If the project (like many others) were abandonned by Mithril, please consider that it is often because of Lars’ decisions not to “invest” in it.

I recently tried personnaly to convince Chris to make those projects come true , even organise polls or kickstarters to know if a project would generate enthusiasm and how much enthusiasm (if there are only 10 people interested, that’s not like 100…) and only 10 is not enough to produce even for Phaeton … that’s why I suggested maybe kickstarter?

Fact is, it seems Lars&Michael and Chris often have disagreements (to say the least…) about Mithril line of conduct (I think some around here know well about it… as I remember discussing that in private…) and now that Chris has sold all his parts of Mithril (it was more than 20 years ago I think) he is but an employee, and not a director/co-owner without any right on final decision…
October 30, 2020 at 3:36 pm #39081
Mornedhel
Participant
I checked the “AN Grupa” accounting last year (be a staff of aworldwide tax company) .
Mithril Miniatures lost money for the last ten years. I suppose it survived as Lars hobby and finance by the “IT” part of his activities.
Just imagine an average of 100 miniatures a month sold at 20€ : 2000€
– Digital sculpture on commission : 250-500€
– production cost: about 300
– Salaries: ? – production, web designer, packaging, mailing …
– Stock,

Each new figurine is a direct loss
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