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December 17, 2018 at 7:47 am #37516
cameosis
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a round on me for the denizens of the place who are present.
and one more for my friend theobald — let’s drink and be merry (and pippin) until the minis look wonderful to our eyes!

https://youtu.be/0H-dJGcD9IQ
December 17, 2018 at 8:33 am #37518
Barliman
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Basically, gentlemen, I’ve always considered resin figures to be the cow’s back end of miniatures. I’ve bought several figures recently from the Company-That-Cannot-Be-Named, whose conceit in calling their resin figures “Finecast” beggars belief (those that can now prefer to buy used metal figures on eBay rather than their modern resin equivalents. This isn’t possible with new figures that were never produced in metal, alas.)

Resin figures seem to be invariably brittle and cannot safely be “bent” back into shape without breaking (or is there some arcane way of doing this that I haven’t yet encountered – immersing them in hot water beforehand maybe?), and the same figures appear to distort differently from figure to figure. I gather this warping is caused by shrinkage after they’re taken from the mould. I haven’t yet encountered this problem with Mithril figures, or have I just been lucky thus far? Maybe it’s the reason why Mithril seem to make their figures out of an increasing number of small parts, to avoid such problems.

I’m not a caster, or someone with any knowledge of how resin works – I just wish everyone would stop using it. GW’s initial excuse was that metal was becoming too expensive, but they then produced their resin figures at even higher prices!! That doesn’t make any sense at all to me, but then I’m only a scrumpy-addled old gaffer who sells ale in a small village, and don’t understand the ins and outs of modern commerce.

Actually, these days I find that I understand a diminishingly small quantity of anything at all. Even old gaffers tend to become older, Master Tree. Mind you, that’s better than the alternative, as I have to keep reminding myself.
December 17, 2018 at 10:39 am #37519
cameosis
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oh, i totally missed out on this … so mithril is resin now? to be fair, there are many wonderful resin-cast minis, gw is not among them. but forgeworld is, their subsidiary. one notable exception is bolg, later renamed gundabad orc general and then keeper of the dungeons.
December 17, 2018 at 11:25 am #37520
Barliman
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Aaaaaaaargh…..

Apologies. My brain is obviously out for an early lunch. Of course Mithril figures aren’t resin. Why should I think that they are? Well, that may have something to do with the dent I got in my forehead when I fell and shattered my T12 vertebra back in March. My short-term memory has not been running effectively ever since, and occasionally goes off on little jaunts all on its own. So, actually still working as well as ever then.

Now, can someone remind me where I am and what I’m supposed to be doing……?
December 17, 2018 at 2:27 pm #37521
Theobald
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huooommm … Master Barliman, you’re in the Prancing Pony still and you just wanted to refill my empty bowl …. rhuooommm …
thank you …. huom
December 17, 2018 at 2:36 pm #37522
Barliman
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I thought that was what I was doing. But I can’t remember if you paid me for the last one….
December 17, 2018 at 5:47 pm #37523
Theobald
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of course I did, Master Barliman, didn’t I … er huoomm … at least I think to remember that I did … huom
December 17, 2018 at 5:57 pm #37524
Thingol
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Theobald wrote:

………no, sorry, I want to tell you here that I’m off with collecting those figures … huom … some of you might have learned to know me as a serious collector …. hm … I do not want to leave this Prancing Pony here, of course, as others did without leaving a word … I somehow feel responsible still …

well, if anyone is interested in my detailed criticism about the MZs I could hand it out, but do not want to pester you with here, as there is a lot … huom
December 18, 2018 at 5:07 am #37525
cameosis
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Barliman wrote:

I thought that was what I was doing. But I can’t remember if you paid me for the last one….

i did. twice.
December 18, 2018 at 7:50 am #37526
Barliman
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“Pants on fire”, if you know what I mean!
December 18, 2018 at 12:23 pm #37527
cameosis
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Barliman wrote:

“Pants on fire”, if you know what I mean!

of course i do. but thankfully nob so was kind to bring us the two pints in the meanwhile. i’d hate having to put on my law suit in my free time.
December 19, 2018 at 12:24 am #37528
Theobald
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Huom … so once again … I want to express my very serious anger and disappointment about these extremely poor MZ-releases again … I tried again to cope with some of those jigsaw-puzzles again today … hruom … before I start a new thread here about these desasterous developments I would like to ask, if any one here can help me … huom … that means, er, has anybody around here tried to assemble that Lorien boat, that Rohir minstrel or that Dwarven scribe ???? …. maybe I’m alone with all my extremely bad experiences having tried to do that …. grrrrrrrrrru°uOOooommm …. that’s why I’m asking … huomm …

Master Barliman? … er, a small cask of my favourite drink please – together with a new clean bowl … hom … coiny things? … you will receive them immediately, of course, after I have have tasted the liquid in that cask … huom …
December 19, 2018 at 7:24 am #37529
Barliman
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A whole cask? Well OK, but remember what happened last time…

I’m afraid I can’t help you with your assembly problems, because I’ve already gone one step beyond you and stopped buying any MZ figures that look like they’re made of more than two pieces. Even the two-piece (horse and rider or separate torso) figures I’ve bought over the past 12 months have necessitated more filing / shaping than I’ve been used to with Mithril, so no thanks! Life’s too short already, and I can do without the frustration…
December 19, 2018 at 9:03 am #37530
cameosis
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it seems the increase in price is inseparably linked with a decrease in quality …
December 19, 2018 at 10:18 am #37531
Barliman
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Counterintuitive though it seems, you are right alas.
December 19, 2018 at 1:36 pm #37535
Theobald
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huoomm … yes, Master Barliman, a cask is what I asked for … huom … I’m a tree, you know, not just some dandelion that needs less water than me … huom … though sometimes I also feel like a lion …. rhuôm … I am in need of that quantity because I have to drown my frustration about that company from the Emerald Island …. huom …

well, I’m afraid there are just a few – if there are any – customers still left who dare and succeed to assemble and prime those MZ- figures appropriately … huom … not all of those figures, just those I mentioned before … huomtidomm … last night I spent many hours trying to assemble all those 8 parts (that all did not fit well at all – to put it nicely) of that Dwarven scribe … rhUuomm … hom … let’s just say that my skills in doing something like that seem to be declining massively …. hommmmmm … yes indeed, life’s too short to be frustated about such minor matters, Master Barliman … hoommhuom …

Master Cameosis, you’re definitely right with your last comment … so, gentlemen, let’s share the rest of what’s left in my cask … huom … cheers
December 19, 2018 at 4:10 pm #37536
hsf62
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It seems the short MZ certainly doesn’t stand for Meister Zinn (master pewter)!
Well, I cant say because I don’t have any of the MZ so far… . maybe I should keep it that way. Some are tempting….

lets have a nice scrumpy in the meantime while contemplating…..
December 19, 2018 at 11:42 pm #37537
Theobald
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huoomm … there’s some liquid left in the hogshead I bought from Master Barliman, so just join in Holger … huom … ? … well, I would have been rather surprised if you had bought one of those MZs, Master Caster … huom … to find out about that is why I started to ask about that here (in public) – I wonder how many people do not buy or collect those MZs … huom … well, our extremely small community here cannot be representative …. rhuommm …
December 20, 2018 at 4:58 am #37538
hsf62
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Cheers Master Theobald! As you know Master tree, I don’t collect, I just buy the minis I like. That it would be with the MZ654 Ranger with hawk. I was a bit in a shock when I saw Master Thingols rating re the MZ figs. But well, the next 50% sale will come and I can decide then. 😆
December 20, 2018 at 11:02 am #37539
Thingol
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Actually, I compared MS437 Halbarad, Northern Ranger and LR21 The Watcher at Sarn Ford with MZ654 Ranger with hawk (btw. this figure was my suggestion) and I realized that this MZ figure is unbelievably poor with details. I did not expect this from the MZ project. Under the all circumstances 3D printing should improve details made on miniatures. It looks like Chris Tubb did made much more better figures by hand than some of those new produced with software.

By the way I’m completely agree with master Tree… Dwarven scribe is beautiful miniature but very complicated for assembling and also the awesome Rohir minstrel but it is unnecessary cutted into a three pieces….
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