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August 5, 2008 at 5:32 am #2733
Barliman
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I haven’t dusted in the library for a while – it’s obviously about time I did!
August 5, 2008 at 9:26 am #2738
Turambar
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sorry for being late, but I want to relate on a topic discussed between Master Barliman and Master Theobald on July 28th:
the Prince Imrahil figure. Reading this I started to have a closer look on these miniatures on the mithril side. Well, I can say I am called a lucky man- because I am an owner of the MX456-Frumgar- figure. As far as I concerned the most magnificent figure in the whole mithril range . . .
Reading the explanation text concerning the MX-thing you will find under point 4, that the mould of the master figure goes DISTROYED to the owner ! Having a closer look to the figures, especially to the horses, you will be able to recognize conspicuous commonalities . . . think about it.
August 5, 2008 at 9:28 am #2739
Gildor
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(mmhh I am not sure to understand? “conspicuous commonalities”? )
August 5, 2008 at 9:37 am #2740
Turambar
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that means: similarities, in a quiet flashy way, Gildor.
August 5, 2008 at 10:19 am #2741
Gildor
MMP Elder
the mould may be broken but the master figurines which were used to create the mould, or the wire&greenstuff model prototype may remain?
using a master to create another master is not forbidden I suppose… by breaking the mould they just insure there are no more “retail castings” made … But from the beginning, Chris Tubb has used the same “base” or position for many many figurines…
August 5, 2008 at 11:20 am #2743
hsf62
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In the Mithril range you will find a lot of horses with a very similar posture. Only the saddle and a few other things have changed, but this is a common thing to work with a basic model and change it to suit the style of rider. And well, it is a great looking horese isn’t it.
August 5, 2008 at 11:58 am #2744
Gildor
MMP Elder
you will notice, for example, that some horses from the dol amroth range are the same… only the knight is different
August 5, 2008 at 12:04 pm #2745
erchamion
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Here is appreciated what Master Gildor says. Watch the two horses on the right

[imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/29_army_pack_dol_amroth.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/29_army_pack_dol_amroth.jpg[/imgz]
August 5, 2008 at 12:45 pm #2747
Gildor
MMP Elder
on a different note, i was working on filling the database with the [mith]MS453[/mith] reference this afternoon and I noticed that Chris Tubb made a HUGE mistake…
to go with Thorin in the tomb, he provided a big axe…. but… it is supposed to be Orcrist, buried with Thorin, not a simple axe!
to be faithful to the book I assume one has to use a sword in scabbard from little “scattered” pieces from other references, and put a sword instead of this axe… thus only a variation of the original could be faithful..
August 5, 2008 at 12:59 pm #2748
Barliman
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That is a bit of a blunder, isn’t it? I’m surprised not only that it slipped past Chris, but that no one else has yet picked up on it (I can excuse myself by the fact that I’ve not (yet) bought this vignette!). But then, there are mistakes in other Mithril figures too – in fact it would be interesting to hear from any of my patrons who’ve encountered particular bugbears of this kind that especially irk them!

I’ll start the ball rolling by mentioning the fact that 90 per cent of Chris’s Orcs have bare feet, whereas the ONLY times JRRT ever draws our attention to Orcs’ feet he tells us that they’re wearing shoes…
August 5, 2008 at 1:15 pm #2749
jdbrown55
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I will mention M128 Boromir. In the book before the fellowship left Rivendell it mentioned what weapons they were carrying. It said that Boromir had a sword, horn and last but not least a SHIELD! Where is his shield at? Also, he has no shield with the M283 figure. (I think that is the number)
August 5, 2008 at 1:17 pm #2750
jdbrown55
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Oh, and to go with Barli’s comment look at the Merp Riders of Rohan cover. Look at the orcs feet, they have shoes on.
August 5, 2008 at 1:45 pm #2752
Gildor
MMP Elder
now there is also the problem of heraldry for the shields… but the problem may come from a licence problem…
though the white horse on green background for rohan is well known, and the white tree on blue background for gondor royal shield too… shields for Elendil and Gil-Galad are not the same in the whole mithril range (Gil-Galad has two different shields in [mith]LR10[/mith] and [mith]MS435[/mith] but both are false… JRRT had done heraldry design for all major houses of men and elves (especially noldor elves) but that MAY be outside of Tolkien Enterprise licences…
August 5, 2008 at 2:10 pm #2753
jdbrown55
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It really doesn’t mention the shield in detail, so I am thinking that it was just a plain shield with no markings on it.
August 5, 2008 at 2:32 pm #2754
Gildor
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The precise design of every elven (and some edain) heraldry for the houses of Fingolfin and Finarfin have been drawn by JRR Tolkien himself in his illustration books , there are quite many of them… but that’s mainly “1st Age work” and outside of any licence own by Tolkien Enterprise…
Here is a link on a detailed site talking about it : http://www.forodrim.org/gobennas/heraldry/heraldry.htm
August 6, 2008 at 7:58 pm #2785
Theobald
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HUUUUOOOOOOMMMMMRRRHHHUUUOOOOMMMMM …. HOmmmmm
Let’s have a toast here on Master Gildor, please ….
he (nearly) finished his database, in case you lads haven’t realized that by now …. rhuoomm …
great job indeed, close to perfect …. huuUUuuooOOOooomm !
Ah, Master Barliman, would you please serve the liquid only to those who already had a look at the database …. hom … you can easily find out by just having a look at them eyes … rhuomm.

THANK YOU MASTER GILDOR !
August 6, 2008 at 10:37 pm #2788
Theobald
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Hi, groovecrown … I just saw you pass by here … hruoommm let me give you a welcome … hom
August 6, 2008 at 10:49 pm #2790
Gildor
MMP Elder
so much to do, so little time…

I have to focus on pictures now
August 7, 2008 at 1:58 am #2796
jdbrown55
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Nice job on the database Gildor! It will be a great source for those who need to complete their collections. Have a drink on me!:lol:
August 8, 2008 at 12:49 pm #2803
jdbrown55
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Well, where did everyone go! Their was a lot of us here not to long ago. I guess they just got busy doing other things. Oh well, here is to everyone(holds mug in the air)!:lol:
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