Thorin and Orcrist

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April 20, 2009 at 12:51 pm #371
Gildor
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Well better to start another topic for this interesting debate rather than post in OA thread.

So well, master Holger, if I remember well, we do have a miniature of Thorin WITH Orcrist actually, it is [mith]M229[/mith] (or [mith]MC3[/mith] ) but in the vignette of his death, it is an axe , as you well know…

If this can help you get an idea on what Orcrist should look like?
April 20, 2009 at 12:51 pm #4989
Gildor
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Well better to start another topic for this interesting debate rather than post in OA thread.

So well, master Holger, if I remember well, we do have a miniature of Thorin WITH Orcrist actually, it is [mith]M229[/mith] (or [mith]MC3[/mith] ) but in the vignette of his death, it is an axe , as you well know…

If this can help you get an idea on what Orcrist should look like?
April 21, 2009 at 9:50 am #4997
hsf62
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Is it M155 Thorin with Orcrist. Or is it M229 Thorin with Orcrist.
Which one is Orcrist? Both swords look different to me.
The problem is I don’t have M155 nor the M229 and the pic in ths database is to small. Ah wait, there is another …..
Bingo found it!
[imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/6_m155_unpainted_1.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/6_m155_unpainted_1.jpg[/imgz][imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/6_thorin_orcrist.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/6_thorin_orcrist.jpg[/imgz][imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/6_m229_thorin_oakenshield_1.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/6_m229_thorin_oakenshield_1.jpg[/imgz][imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/6_m229_thorin_oakenshield_2.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/6_m229_thorin_oakenshield_2.jpg[/imgz]
Easier to compare.
April 21, 2009 at 3:10 pm #4998
Gildor
MMP Elder
M229/MC3 is still available for sale, just in case if someone wants to sculpt around and cut the arm around the sword that may be possible. M155 would be a lot harder to “extract” the sword.
Orcrist and Glamdring are of the same “family” , elven swords from Gondolin. the mannish sword with curved guard (the one on the left on the adventurer dwarf pic) would not fit I think.

In case a Glamdring could pass for Orcrist… but as we can see on M155, the sword height was not fitting for a dwarf, but Thorin did use it nevertheless…He had to carry it by hand, not fixed on belt… too high
May 12, 2009 at 1:23 pm #5192
hsf62
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Ha, I found the sword!!!!
Just needs a little tough up.
Pic is coming soon.
June 1, 2009 at 11:29 am #5552
hsf62
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What do you think? Could this be Ocrist?
[imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/6_orcrist_new.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/6_orcrist_new.jpg[/imgz]
June 1, 2009 at 12:31 pm #5554
Gildor
MMP Elder
yup this sword in scabbard could be used for the Thorin funerals vignette , it seems though that the left side of the sword guard is bent or slightly broken? but its aspect is quite well indeed
June 1, 2009 at 1:59 pm #5556
Theobald
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Huoommm … no …
First of all I have to complain about the presentation of Orcrist. It doesn’t match with that M306 Dwarf … rhuoommm … mind the mittens … huoommm … then there’s only one Orcrist as a single part and that is being carried on the shoulder of Master Oakenshild as it would have hampered using it in case he struck it to his belt … rhuoommm … that’s what I know … alas .. I forgot …rhuoomm .. Orchrist … was it a sword …. huommm … an axe … a jewel … some will know … a gem, meseems it was … hom
June 1, 2009 at 2:40 pm #5557
hsf62
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Masyer Ent, it is a sword as you well know. But we also got two different looking “Orcrist’s” already, so I thought a third slightly different looking one for Thorins funeral would be ok, because all good things come in three….and yes, in a sense it is a jewel too….

Now Master Gildor… This is the prototype…
The sword is put together out of 3 pieces, and the dark like which makes the guard seem to be broken is actually the glueline. Painted or renuwed… this line is not seen anymore.
June 1, 2009 at 4:16 pm #5558
Theobald
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Rhuoomm .. I did witness that the Orcrist design wasn’t based on based on original parts … huommm .. though the sheath is taken from that … huoomm you know what figure shouldering that jewel. … besides I was happily surprised about the design of the pommel … great work, Master Caster …. great work, indeed … for such a small thing that has been important to slay foes and which has been provided in a vignette that I do still like because of all the emotions that are in it … rhuoommm … anyway … I’ll be in need of some rest by now … rhuoomm..
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