Thorin and Orcrist

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  • #371
    Gildor
    MMP Elder

    Well better to start another topic for this interesting debate rather than post in OA thread.

    So well, master Holger, if I remember well, we do have a miniature of Thorin WITH Orcrist actually, it is [mith]M229[/mith] (or [mith]MC3[/mith] ) but in the vignette of his death, it is an axe , as you well know…

    If this can help you get an idea on what Orcrist should look like? :)

    #4989
    Gildor
    MMP Elder

    Well better to start another topic for this interesting debate rather than post in OA thread.

    So well, master Holger, if I remember well, we do have a miniature of Thorin WITH Orcrist actually, it is [mith]M229[/mith] (or [mith]MC3[/mith] ) but in the vignette of his death, it is an axe , as you well know…

    If this can help you get an idea on what Orcrist should look like? :)

    #4997
    hsf62
    Participant

    Is it M155 Thorin with Orcrist. Or is it M229 Thorin with Orcrist.
    Which one is Orcrist? Both swords look different to me.
    The problem is I don’t have M155 nor the M229 and the pic in ths database is to small. Ah wait, there is another …..
    Bingo found it!
    [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/6_m155_unpainted_1.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/6_m155_unpainted_1.jpg[/imgz][imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/6_thorin_orcrist.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/6_thorin_orcrist.jpg[/imgz][imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/6_m229_thorin_oakenshield_1.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/6_m229_thorin_oakenshield_1.jpg[/imgz][imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/6_m229_thorin_oakenshield_2.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/6_m229_thorin_oakenshield_2.jpg[/imgz]
    Easier to compare.

    #4998
    Gildor
    MMP Elder

    M229/MC3 is still available for sale, just in case if someone wants to sculpt around and cut the arm around the sword that may be possible. M155 would be a lot harder to “extract” the sword.
    Orcrist and Glamdring are of the same “family” , elven swords from Gondolin. the mannish sword with curved guard (the one on the left on the adventurer dwarf pic) would not fit I think.

    In case a Glamdring could pass for Orcrist… but as we can see on M155, the sword height was not fitting for a dwarf, but Thorin did use it nevertheless…He had to carry it by hand, not fixed on belt… too high

    #5192
    hsf62
    Participant

    Ha, I found the sword!!!!
    Just needs a little tough up.
    Pic is coming soon.:D

    #5552
    hsf62
    Participant

    What do you think? Could this be Ocrist?
    [imgz url=http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/6_orcrist_new.jpg]http://mmp.faerylands.eu/uploads/thumbs/6_orcrist_new.jpg[/imgz]

    #5554
    Gildor
    MMP Elder

    yup this sword in scabbard could be used for the Thorin funerals vignette , it seems though that the left side of the sword guard is bent or slightly broken? but its aspect is quite well indeed

    #5556
    Theobald
    Participant

    Huoommm … no …
    First of all I have to complain about the presentation of Orcrist. It doesn’t match with that M306 Dwarf … rhuoommm … mind the mittens … huoommm … then there’s only one Orcrist as a single part and that is being carried on the shoulder of Master Oakenshild as it would have hampered using it in case he struck it to his belt … rhuoommm … that’s what I know … alas .. I forgot …rhuoomm .. Orchrist … was it a sword …. huommm … an axe … a jewel … some will know … a gem, meseems it was … hom

    #5557
    hsf62
    Participant

    Masyer Ent, it is a sword as you well know. But we also got two different looking “Orcrist’s” already, so I thought a third slightly different looking one for Thorins funeral would be ok, because all good things come in three….and yes, in a sense it is a jewel too….

    Now Master Gildor… This is the prototype…
    The sword is put together out of 3 pieces, and the dark like which makes the guard seem to be broken is actually the glueline. Painted or renuwed… this line is not seen anymore.;)

    #5558
    Theobald
    Participant

    Rhuoomm .. I did witness that the Orcrist design wasn’t based on based on original parts … huommm .. though the sheath is taken from that … huoomm you know what figure shouldering that jewel. … besides I was happily surprised about the design of the pommel … great work, Master Caster …. great work, indeed … for such a small thing that has been important to slay foes and which has been provided in a vignette that I do still like because of all the emotions that are in it … rhuoommm … anyway … I’ll be in need of some rest by now … rhuoomm..

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