Tolkien’s world on Amazon Prime…

MMP Mithril in Middle-Earth The Prancing Pony Tolkien’s world on Amazon Prime…

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  • #914
    Barliman
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    Well, this was unexpected! –

    https://middle-earth.xenite.org/jeffbezos-amazon-announced-tv-deal-tolkien-estate/

    I’m not sure if I’m happy about it or not. If all of Tolkien’s material, including Unfinished Tales and the Silmarillion, is included in the deal, that would certainly make it interesting. But it will all stand or fall on the strength and integrity of the end product.

    It’s also a bit of a bugger that it will (initially at least) be exclusive to Amazon Prime – which I don’t have.

    What do you all think about the news?

    #36561
    Barliman
    Participant

    Well, this was unexpected! –

    https://middle-earth.xenite.org/jeffbezos-amazon-announced-tv-deal-tolkien-estate/

    I’m not sure if I’m happy about it or not. If all of Tolkien’s material, including Unfinished Tales and the Silmarillion, is included in the deal, that would certainly make it interesting. But it will all stand or fall on the strength and integrity of the end product.

    It’s also a bit of a bugger that it will (initially at least) be exclusive to Amazon Prime – which I don’t have.

    What do you all think about the news?

    #36565
    Thingol
    Participant

    Very interesting.. very interesting. I hope one day this will find a way through the misty mountains and come into the our TV screens…

    #36572
    Maenas
    Participant

    Looking forward that day Master Thingol!

    #36589
    hsf62
    Participant

    I do have Amazon Prime!;)😎

    #36590
    Barliman
    Participant

    I’ve never thought of it being worth having – until now. That, of course, was Amazon’s strategy. Having failed to bully us into getting it by not selling certain products to anyone except Amazon Prime members, thie is obviously Plan B.

    #36596
    Barliman
    Participant

    More news on the Tolkien / Amazon deal:

    https://middle-earth.xenite.org/christopher-tolkien-resigned-tolkien-estate/

    The reason for the Estate’s movement regarding rights to other Tolkien works now becomes apparent, resulting from:

    1) Christopher Tolkien’s retirement / reesignation / removal as chief executive of the Estate; and
    2) The fact that Amazon have paid an advance of half a billion dollars

    What these sorts of sums will do to Mithril’s rights to produce their figures remains to be seen.

    #36600
    Maenas
    Participant
    Barliman wrote:
    More news on the Tolkien / Amazon deal:
    1) Christopher Tolkien’s retirement / reesignation / removal as chief executive of the Estate; and

    I am not sure if I am happy or worried now…. :rolleyes:
    I think might have been a little restrictive with everything, but at least he has been coherent… who knows what will happen to Tolkien universe now, I hope it will maintain it’s “nonwarhammer” essence..

    #36601
    Gildor
    MMP Elder

    I think it would be a GREAT idea for Lars and Chris (tubb not Tolkien) to propose themselves to the tolkien estate now to have rights to produces figurines based on the books now… for years it was Chris (Tolkien not Tubb) who was against the idea but I seem to remember others from the tolkien family (Michael Tolkien, one of the grandsons) who had nothing against…

    I’d gladly try to sort something out if I can reach Michaël (Tolkien, not O’brien) like I did back in the days… but first it would be cool to hear from Chris (Tubb not Tolkien)….

    #36613
    mindx2
    Participant

    Could this help open the door for figures based on The Silmarillion?! One can hope can’t he….?!!

    #36614
    Barliman
    Participant

    It’s bound to – from other companies. even if not from Mithril. Interesting times lie ahead.

    I shall be especially interested to see if the creative licences issued also allow for new fiction to be written, though this would need to be very well written and carefully controlled and edited to ensure the style is in keeping with JRRT’s meticulous use of older English words and grammar.

    #36615
    Gildor
    MMP Elder

    adapting and porting to screen is one thing, creating ex nihilo is another…

    when I saw for example the cutscenes and movies from the Warner Bros computer games “Shadow of Mordor” and Shadow of War, i was furious… Certainly some of us know about it, it’s a pure abomination…

    an unknown ranger from the north (named Talion) merging with the ghost of old Celebrimbor who has grown megalomaniac into creating a second “One Ring” himself, but “good version”… calling himself the Bright Lord, fighting with Sauron, almost defeating him single handedly on who knows which battleground… the siege of Minas Ithil with a Gondorian general named Castamir with his daughter Idril….. Galadriel elven “royal assassin” sent to help, Isildur being in fact a Nazgul against his will (after he was slain, Sauron, as Annatar (oO) putting a Ring of men on his finger… then being defeated…
    Shelob taking the appearence of a gorgeous girl…with the appearance of Liv Tyler, like Lolth in the dungeons&dragons, and getting a ring… and almost “kind”….

    and some say Peter Jackson made horrors… you have seen no horrors until you’ve seen those computer games which reinvited all tolkien paraphernalia… pieces of garbage! (visually great, but even MERP never did such outrageous lore assasination)

    #36616
    Barliman
    Participant

    Happily I’ve never witnessed the travesty you describe, and I shall now make a point of never doing so!

    #36617
    Gildor
    MMP Elder

    well all of this is presented as a prequel to the Lord of the Rings… in a location that does not have any impact on the events of the Hobbit at all… but at the end it “matches” what happens in the LOTR movie if you have never read the other books… that’s the greatest trickery…. for those who only saw the movies and are not aware of the other writings this seems TOTALLY legit !! and I do hope that this new deal with Amazon could correct such nonsens even if they take some freedom that can’t be worse that what I describe here… which was one of the big reasons of the Tolkien Estate suing Warner Bros for what they did

    #36618
    Barliman
    Participant

    The problem I find with all this non-JRRT material is that it has no heart or soul. It lacks any sensitivity for the author’s meticulously imagined and described history, his deep understanding of the etymology of the Anglo-Saxon language and his expert understanding and use of surviving Dark Age literature and mythology. I have this recurrent dread that we’ll eventually end up with someone in Gondor saying, in an American accent, “Hey guys, the goddam orcs are attacking again!”

    Perish the thought.

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